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I am still using the hog a lot because it is very cool.
January 10, 2010 at 1:29 am in reply to: DOD land…analog man modded DOD vrs an old yellow 250 DOD..including some jalapeñ±o hot playing #106265st.bedeMemberQuote:Good a/b’ingTo me,
I’m hearing the yellow one as being brighter.
The Analogman seems to have a little more hair on it too.
yes,
i think that is correct…st.bedeMemberdreamguy…nice post….I would humbly disagree with the notion that once you get a digital pedal righ then it will be the same even 5 years later…
I belive that as we move into 64bits (and what not) eventually we can really get a amp sound with software….
emulations and or modeled stuff is getting pretty good….I am a big fan of universal audio’s stuff….and I would love to give focusrite’s modelled pres/com/eq a try…
at the same time…it seem that a lot of guitar pedal makers are still giving us pretty weak stuff….I would mention the ones I am thinking of but that would be rude…then again maybe roland could do a little better…I won’t mentiuon any others..and I only mentioned roland because I use a ton of thier stuff and have a huge respect for a lot of their gear but some of their pedals….
EHX has always been great and they really put a lot into what they do….no if ands or buts, I just hope they will take as big a step as cost will allow to give us the best quality so the digital stuff will be close to the analog…and in the future maybe even better…
st.bedeMemberQuote:I prefer analog when possible, but ultimately I’m more concerned with writing a good song and performing it with feeling. I’m a believer that I can make any gear sound good as long as the song and performance are in place.getting down to the truth here…
any way from what I have heard EH is using 24bit Burr-Brown convertors in the cathedral…very nice…I will have to give one a try eventhough I tend not use verb with guitar being played live…
and this is why I started the post because I love EH and if they are really going digital I want to still have some of the best sounding stuff coming from EH…..peace
st.bedeMemberQuote:EDIT:
With the new company came the famous EH logo, which has been variously described as a “ram’s head” or “lamb’s head.” According to Mike, the logo was designed by a female artist and “I liked it so I just used it as a logo, something to attract attention to the ad. It didn’t have any special meaning other than I thought it was distinctive.” (Neely)It’s not the first place I read it, but:
http://bertram.codesoup.org/instruments/13/vintage/10/electro-harmonix-70s-boosterwell….I thought it look like green man the protector of the forests…
st.bedeMemberQuote:It is certainly a bit darker than most analog delays, which makes it a great addition to any pedal board. I also like that you can color the repeats with the rotary effects–it isn’t the most practical feature, but is great for something a bit different at times. I replaced my mass-produced digitals with the memory boy and a home-made digital delay with similar characteristics to the Memory Boy (i.e., darker repeats and wet/dry controls). EHX has won me for life with their delays.I will say that I have been using it wuth a dark sounding amp (a 1965 fender princeton) so, I need to check it out with more amps…
I think the functionality of the pedal is extremly musical which IMHO way overrides a bit of a “dull” tone…In many way I am playing the pedal like the expersion knobs on a synth…extremly cool…I wish all pedals were that cool…
st.bedeMemberQuote:To compare them with high end converters is really like comparing apples with pears. They are guitar pedals for christ’s sake!I humbly disagree…..I only say high end convertors because analoge still sound best IMHO…I belive that tech is getting really close…(I just got NI guitar rig 4 and IMHO it sound much better ther 3)…so, I still favor a amp and mic…or an analog pedal
and as we move forward with 64bit processing and we can get the pedals to run at a 32bit floating point and at 96 the digital stuff should became very close to the analog…
but, if no one says “hey X” we want great sounding dugital stuff…we could have a repeate of the late 80s when every one was so overtaken by the functionality of the digital stuff as to forgive the tonality of it…of course these are my thoughts (and worries)
(and eventhough I really like the HOG, I do find it a bit lacking in tonality…not enough to take it baxk but enough for me to wish it was a bit more organic…)
st.bedeMemberQuote:ok, according to Scott Matthews the POG2 has “a 4x faster DSP (than the original pog) that now processes the audio in 32-bit”I don’t really know what that means, but you might!
I am extremly glad to hear that
st.bedeMemberQuote:I think the Pog, Hog and Hazarai are masterpieces of digital design. The 2880 is genius ……and the Cathedral is arguably the greatest digital (pedal) reverb ever made. I think they have a pretty strong digital line up, is there a specific pedal you are thinking of?(first, I want to say, I see EH putting out more digital pedals and I worry that one day they will only be offering digital pedals so that is way I am even mentioning this concern of mine)
I do not mean to angry anyone…I am humble and do really love EH….in my limited experience…of seriously trying the 2880 and of owning the HOG…and checking out the holy grail…I have found that (once again in my limited humbly experience) the converters (I am assuming) are not as good as my high end gear….yes, comparing the two worlds are not fair but at this point I believe that the tech is so high there is no reason not to convert at higher rates….
also, another example is say between my TC nova delay and say the 2880….I still believe that the TC is a bit better in the whole analog to digital thing but, as someone who is very picky…I still believe that the TC robs a bit of tone…
now there is a: cost to usefulness to tone equation….
I love EH and I wish they would just get the conversion done at a higher rate and with as little jitter as possible…
peace
and I will have to check out the cathedral
st.bedeMemberhow does it dsound comparing it to drQ and the tube zipper…
st.bedeMemberok….did place evrything after (not using comp at this moment) and it worked better…I am still getting some allising but, again I do enjoy what the pedal can do…I will say that I am not 100% happy with the tone but I am going to keep it so, I am not super disatisfied either…it can do some really cool things but, I am not sure my money was as well spent as I would of liked…I guess I could of gone the midi route but the HOG does track better and setting up all the functionality would be a lot of work…not too mention a control surface to do the same thing also would take a bunch of work….
over all I do not like any EHs pedals that are not analoge but, I will live with this one…
peace
st.bedeMemberQuote:There is definitely some noticeable latency in the HOG, but I’ve yet to hear a pitch shifter pedal that tracks better than the HOG. It just seems to come with the territory.I usually place the HOG close to the front of the signal chain. IMO, it sounds best when used in front of distortion, fuzz, chorus, phase shifting, delay, or reverb. Those effects tend to round out the tonality of the pitch shifting.
If you watch Bill Rupperts Effectology videos, you’ll notice that he rarely if ever uses the HOG without some sort of modulation or time based effects. I think the PolyChorus or the Deluxe Electric Mistress in particular sound great after the HOG.
thank you very much…I was running dist in front and will try to run it after…I will say I like the pedal….
st.bedeMemberI am also thinking about the riddle I have a Qtron…I like it alot but, the added control with the riddle is tempting….
also, IMHO an EH wha has a nice percussive attack I do not get with any other of my wha pedals….maybe EH should re-issue them? crying tone demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHtDetVJ3H0
st.bedeMemberQuote:it’s unpredictable, delay times seem to vary, some times I get about 650 ms sometimes 550. Sometimes it oscillates easily, sometimes not at all…I do not know if I would like that at all….
August 28, 2009 at 9:01 pm in reply to: which one should I get: the riddle or the memory boy? #100988st.bedeMembera lot of support for the riddle….
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