I don’t really like gearmandude’s videos. Too many blues licks, too much talking, and usually I can barely tell the difference between the similar pedals he does shoot outs with. He tries to set them all the same, instead of setting them for how each one sounds best.
Yeah i’d agree and for someone with such a prolific quantity of Gear demos and high end guitar equipment, i’d have thought he could have aquired a better recording set up by now! The quality of sound always underwhelms me.
He also doesn’t really seem to explore the pedals for their main purpose, he just riffs into them and maybe doesn’t play to their strengths.
those are the ones…. not cheap and postage is quite high from there (around £6) but I don’t know anywhere in the UK to get them, I do order from Banzai quite often though, so I could always pick some up and them forward them on to you regular 1st class if you wanted, that would work out a bit cheaper.
Grabbed it Via a Forum Member (Different Forum) had been a project that didn’t get finished.
That’s the sorta Power thing yeah, hoping to grab one on the cheap from a pound shop or something just for while I get it all running again, unless I sell something online and get some funds in my Paypal anyway in which case i’ll just nab that.
Yeah i’d seen Banzaimusics knobs, don’t think anywhere else is doing the Davies knobs at the moment (Other than smallbear but not for the D-Shaft) I worked out the cost of all the parts I needed to repair this and bring it back closer to original specs and pre-postage it came to about £16 which isn’t too bad in the grand scheme, i’ll probably wait till I need some more specific parts from Banzai and order it all at once to make it more worth it.
I think the only way to beat the clone is to mod it to have things like a depth pot or chorus/vibrato switch etc. But that’s not really beating it.
As for the stone… not a clue, never used one. Only phaser I’ve got is my Marshall Regenerator, and that’s a pile of crap.
Oh Hell yeah, that Marshall Regenerator is awful… The only interesting thing it did was that Step Phaser which I couldn’t find much use for (Apart from the intro to Muse – Map of the Problematique… which I couldn’t care less about having a specific effect for) and I suppose the Vibe settings were quite nice, but the Flanger was so weak, to be honest that whole line of pedals was a bit of a dissapointment.
Regards the Original Question… the Small Clone I cannot fault, nicest chorus, Ever, especially with the mods mentioned (And running it at a higher voltage, if it uses the 3007). But the Small Stone… I think i’d swap it for the Bad Stone, infact that’s probably one of the only Phasers i’ve ever really liked the sound of, it’s just very smooth and musical, however I haven’t tried the Small Stone in person yet, just from clips (Got a Green Russian on the way though).
Where is the info on the power supply? I can’t seem to find it. That would be a shame if it’s not then mn3005. You should just buy the deluxe memory boy then.
It says 9V on the image, that doesn’t actually mean it’ll end up being 9V if it’s just a preliminary Photo but it probably will.
The Memory Boy uses the BL3208 aswell though, none of the Memory Toys/Boys/Mans use MN3005 anymore, those chips are long gone, even the bulk stock they had. The XO Memory Man was using 4 x 3008 (The Smaller Brother of the 3005, hence 4 instead of 2) and I assume they still do and that runs off the higher voltage.
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How come the new Memory Man uses 9V, instead of 24V like the other model? Won’t that affect the sound?
DC-DC conversion chips can give the voltage inside the unit any usable value, including 24V. SO it’s impossible to say what it’s truly running without taking it apart to see.
True, but I feel it unlikely, stocks of 3008 would be running low too for there XO Memory Man so EHX are probably converting all there designs over to the readily available 32XX Series, while they could use a charge pump to deliver higher voltages to the rest of the circuit for more headroom, the BBDs will still be the low voltage chips.
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Will it still sound like a Memory Man then? Are these chips still superior to the ones being used in the Deluxe Memory Boy?
They’re the same chips used in the Memory Boy and aslong as the design is the same as the memory man (allowing for the design changes for the new chip, mainly polarity issues) Yes it will most likely sound like a Memory Man, if they change the basic design along with the changes needed to get the new chips to function, then maybe not, that I can’t tell you.
BBDs (The MN3005 or whatever) are a very small part in the overall design when you look at it, they delay and poorly at that, so that’s why they have all that surrounding circuitry to make them work well and makes the pedal sound like it is. So don’t fear these new chips, there’s no Superiority, they’re the same chip every Analog Delay company is using these days, EHX know what the sound of the Memory Man is like and how they got it in the first place so I doubt they’d stray too far from that tested sound.
How come the new Memory Man uses 9V, instead of 24V like the other model? Won’t that affect the sound?
It’s not using the Higher Voltage MN30XX Series of Chips of Yesteryear, it’ll have been converted to either the 8-Pin BL3208 or possibly the Cool Audio V3205 chip clones of the MN32XX Chips which run off a lower voltage.
All this is means is it might not have quite as much headroom, something a player might notice, but in a band situation… I doubt an audience cares, the filtering on a delay is mainly important to its sound.
Take 25% off of MSRP to get the price it will really be.
I’d bet my first born that the DMMTT is digitally controlled analog, just like the DXMB
I’d also bet my first born that the nano Mistress is analog
Man you’ve really got it in for that First Born…
I suspect the Neo Mistress will be Analog yes, atleast i’m hoping (Digital Flanging never did much for me) I assume it’ll use the 3207 chip instead of 5106 the normal Electric Mistress uses… how close in design to the actual Electric Mistress it is remains to be seen though.
Anyway, pretty stoked for that one if it plays out nicely, only other 1590B sized enclosure Flanger around I know of is the MXR Micro Flanger so it’s nice to see some choice on the small pedal front, especially if they get that Electric Mistress (Non-Deluxe 70s Version) sound in an enclosure that small.
The New DMM will be Analog, i’d bet your first born too, I think rather than being a continuation of the ‘Toy Boy’ line, it’ll be an updated version of the original XO Memory Man which is fairly different in design to the new lines. With Digital Control of course, that’d be my guess atleast.
no Scruffie it wasn’t the same company that makes the “chi-wha-wha” (Plutonium? i think?) it was a different smaller more boutique company who made pedals but also offered enclosures. i only used the “chi-wha-wha” as an example, the one im thinking of actualy wasn’t the same (almost a Boss style case) it was more of a Crybaby case, but small like a Boss pedal.
but thank you for your help and efforts!!!
No no, I got that, i’ve seen the company you mean though that made something simmilar to the Chi Wah (Yes it is Plutonium) I saw it a few months back, just having trouble remembering who it was, i’ll search for it though.
damn! thanks for the info Scruffie but thats still a bit expensive for multiple builds.
i once seen a website and lost track of it, of sum one who makes boutique pedals and sells the enclosures. they offered a small expression enclosure, almost like the “chi-wha-wha” i was hoping sum one will know sum info.
I know the pedal you mean… give me a day or two to see if I can find it… I didn’t know they sold the enclosures but I know what you mean.
You ever seen the Devi Ever emo wah? Never produced but with the base of a 1590A enclosure and a 1590B Enlcosure… i’ll see if I can find a picture, you’d have to do a bit of engineering though.
I have a relatively new black Russian BMP (2006), and the pots are shot, they were super scratchy and when I tried to clean them the posts pulled completely out of the pot and I can’t get them back in. I would like to replace all 3 with something high quality (like my Fulltone ’69 fuzz, great build quality!), I don’t care if it means I need to get new knobs for it. I’m going for tone, not looks… Any ideas where to source really high quality pots that will fit into this model? Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!
Pots is pots, there’s no such thing as pots with good tone, they serve a purpose, tighter tollerances would be what you are after, but even that is finite.
Just get the pots with the right tapers and values from anywhere, most places will stock the same ‘Alpha’ Brand pots, they’re used in basically every pedal, from cheap to boutique, even Fulltone.
They’re mechanical, much like the foot switches and as such, tend to go bad as they are worked, however something can be said for not having them board mounted, but nothing related to the issue you discovered, it was just poor luck
this is weird it’s like the transistor needs a little charge before it’ll work. no matter how many times i resolder it the same issue persists. I put the red multimeter probe on the joint and the flanger fires up!
any ideas?
I’d still stick to what the EH Man said and keep at that joint, make sure it’s nice and shiney lookin’
Other than that… ‘Charge’ to me says bad Polarized cap, i’d blame the 10uF Tantalum in parallel with the Zener first, could try replacing it with a standard electrolytic or a tantalum if you prefer, don’t forget it’s polarized though so it must be replaced the correct way.
That or the 33uF from Pin 3 of the 741/ Collector of the Transistor.
1. mine does not have an 18 volt transformer. 2. my unit has a direct out as well as a flanged out, 3. none of my 1/4′ jacks have anything connected to the grounds, only the tip connector is connected to my board if that makes any sense. and 4. my unit does not use a 6 pole switch for effect bypass, it uses a 3 pole standard stompy type switch lol. there could be more differences but im no expert when it comes to schematics. but my looking at this and testing most of the caps. resistors etc on my board they are the same.
1. Did it ever have one? Is there a hole where it might have come out?
2. That’s normal.
3. Makes sense
4. That’s normal, it’s not True Bypass is all.
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now, after looking at several schematics. and what not i have come to the conclusion that this pedal takes 18 volts. so i chained together 2, 9 volt batteries to get 18 volts and connected the pos and neg to the corresponding point on the boad according to the diagram i posted up top. and i got no sound initially. i re wired my jacks to the board as per a picture i saw on ebay of an 80’s model board, and still got nothing. now i have wired my jacks and switches to the board as per the diagram i linked, and now i get sound!, but its not a flanged sound. its my sorta faint guitar sound with this clicking sound when the effect is on. and after some experimentation the clicking gets faster or slower if i turn the rate dial up and down. the color dial has no effect and the range dial seems to add some what of a doubleing effect on the clicking. so i am hoping this clicking is maybe a good sign that the pedal can be salvaged. sorry for the lengthy post, but if anyone has any ideas or could help me through this that would we be sooo awsome. thanks!
Can you post a gut shot of your unit? It’d be helpfull in debugging it, for now i’ll assume you have the SAD1024, EH-5150 Unit.
There should be an onboard regulator, either a chip or some kind of diode situation, DEM powering isn’t something I know too much about i’ll admit… but it should take 18V (Actually 24, but 18 will be fine aslong as your batteries aren’t run down) and be stepped down to 15V internally by that regulator.
The Clicking is a sign that the LFO is working, sadly, that doesn’t mean your Delay/BBD Chip has survived… but I wouldn’t give up yet, it might just need work around it.
Do you have a Multi Meter? Post voltages for the pins of every chip and transistor, post that gut shot too.