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  • in reply to: Tape Reverse Effect – M.M.Hazarai #125855
    renzulli
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    Ok. I get what you mean on the second part, the looper. This can be done with the MM Hazarai. But this only extends up to 6 seconds in the Tap Tempo mode so it’s limited to playing only short riffs in advance. nor real time stuff. The looper extends to 30 seconds so that would be an option.

    I found out that on the AttackDecay the ‘decay’-knob CAN be turned down all the way to zero (anticlockwise) to get an abrupt cutoff of the note with the ‘attack’ or swell-knob to any position (idealy to 9 o clock) but with a expression pedal to steer teh attack mode would be perfect.

    I owned a SnarlingDog tape reverse/volume pedal (2 functions in 1 pedal) that you have to rock (like a wah pedal) back and forth to get the effect. But you have to rock the pedal ‘all the way’ down to the end (and back on the next note) otherwise there’s no cutoff and the next note blurrs into oblivion. So playing this pedal was problematic too, especially on faster notes. It just didn’t do the trick.
    Sold it again.

    in reply to: Tape Reverse Effect – M.M.Hazarai #125854
    renzulli
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    Hi Julian.

    That sounds interesting. Two questions:

    1 what’s a MIDI CC?

    2 do you hava an example or particular type of brand in mind when mentioning a ‘looper with a reverse function’? The EHX MM Hazarai seems to cover this, but it seems to me you probably have something else in mind.

    in reply to: Tape Reverse Effect – M.M.Hazarai #125853
    renzulli
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    Question 2: What Big Muff (i.e.(Pi, Sovjet, Ramshead) type does the Fuzz on the AttackDecay best compare to?

    in reply to: Tape Reverse Effect – M.M.Hazarai #125850
    renzulli
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    Ok. I get the idea. With the knob setting on the MM Hazarai with:
    – decay and repeats to zero (7 o’clock counterclockwise),
    – blend to all the way to 5:30 0′ clock (clockwise) and
    – delay at 12 0r 1 o’clock the repeats are almost down to one repeat.

    You have to think ahead since it takes a second for the note to get started. Not ideal but the best sofar you can buy probably.
    A quite realistic imitaiton of tape reverse. But now I’m studying tabs in reverse since Hazarai puts the melody in reverse too. Neverheless it sounds quite realistic.

    I’m more geared towards the idea of a device reacting on impuls (like an auto-wah) as is the case with the AttackDecay pedal. You could play more ‘real time’ were it not for the problems with fast and longer notes in a solo.
    with the decay knob all the way to zero and attack towards 9 or 10 ó clock it sounds ok but not as good as the Hazarai.

    Question: Is there any video available presenting an ExpressionPedal hooked up to the AttackDecay?
    Would a Expression pedal on the attack parameter solve my problem on faster and longer notes?

    in reply to: IDEA: BRING BACK THE ATTACK DECAY PEDAL #125825
    renzulli
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    Tape Reverse effect – Expression pedal

    I bought a Memory man with Hazarai last year and an AttackDecay pedal a while later.
    A realistic Tape Reverse effect still seems quite elusive to emulate. Not quite satisfied yet.
    The greatest problem creating a realistic Tpe Reverse effect seem to be:
    1 – Playing a solo it consists of longer and shorter notes. Thus geting the Swell and Decay function correctly.
    2 – With many pedals out there you cannot decouple the reverse function from the delay function (MemorymanHazarai, Line6 Pod, Danelectro BackTalk etc.)

    The Memory Man has a nice cutoff at the end of the tone, just like the real thing when the pedal control knobs are at their most extreme position. But the downaide of this pedal is that even at its most extreme setting the signal cannot be totally dislocated from the delay function i.e repeats. Another downside is that it takes a while for the signal to get started in this setting after picking the note.

    Now the Attack Decay pedal does not suffer from these repeats since it is not coupled to a(digital/anaologue)delay.
    But a real Tape reverse guitar swells slowly and then is suddenly cut off at its apex.
    With the Attack Decay the signal fades away slowly at the end. This can be altered of course with the Decay-knob but then you get these staccato like repeats. Now it sounds more like the Japanese Banjo from the EHX instruction video(when trying to shorten the cutoff by turning back the decay knob counter-clockwise) which is not at all what you’re looking for when trying to do a Tape Reverse effect. Consequently you have to turn down the Attack-knob now too but that doen’t do the trick.

    Furtermore: When playing a solo it consists of longer and shorter notes. This is a problem for the Attack- and Decay-knob on the AttackDecay pedal.
    Try playing the “Castles made of Sand”-solo correctly with this pedal. You’ll have a hard time.

    The manual states that an EHX Expression foot Pedal can be hooked up to the Attack Decay an give you direct control over each control-knob on the Attack Decay.

    My question now is:
    1- does anyone have some experience with an Expression pedal on the AttackDecay (decay/attack-knob),
    2- and more specific in creating a more realistic cutoff at the end of the guitar note like on the Memory Man Tape Reverse effect.
    3- Or could this cutoff (like the MemoryManHazarai)be achieved by other technical means?

    in reply to: attack decay effect #125824
    renzulli
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    Tape Reverse effect – Expression pedal

    I bought a Memory man with Hazarai last year and an AttackDecay pedal a while later.
    A realistic Tape Reverse effect still seems quite elusive to emulate. Not quite satisfied yet.
    The greatest problem creating a realistic Tpe Reverse effect seem to be:
    1 – Playing a solo it consists of longer and shorter notes. Thus geting the Swell and Decay function correctly.
    2 – With many pedlas out there you cannot decouple the reverse function from the delay function (MemorymanHazarai, Line6 Pod, Danelectro BackTalk etc.)

    The Memory Man has a nice cutoff at the end of the tone, just like the real thing when the pedal control knobs are at their most extreme position. But the downaide of this pedal is that even at its most extreme setting the signal cannot be totally dislocated from the delay function i.e repeats. Another downside is that it takes a while for the signal to get started in this setting after picking the note.

    Now the Attack Decay pedal does not suffer from these repeats since it is not coupled to a(digital/anaologue)delay.
    But a real Tape reverse effect swells slowly and then is suddenly cut off at its apex.
    With the Attack Decay the signal fades away slowly at the end. This can be altered of course with the Decay-knob but then you get these staccato like repeats. Now it sounds more like the Japanese Banjo from the EHX instruction video(when trying to shorten the cutoff by turning back the decay knob counter-clockwise) which is not at all what you’re looking for when trying to do a Tape Reverse effect. Consequently you have to turn down the Attack-knob now too but that doen’t do the trick.

    Furtermore: When playing a solo it consists of long and shorter notes. This is a problem for the Attack-knob on the AttackDecay pedal.
    Try playing the “Castles made of Sand”-solo correctly with this pedal. You’ll have a hard time.

    The manual states that an EHX Expression foot Pedal can be hooked up to the Attack Decay an give you direct control over each control-knob on the Attack Decay.

    My question now is:
    1- does anyone have some experience with an Expression pedal on the AttackDecay (decay/attack-knob),
    2- and more specific in creating a more realistic cutoff at the end of the guitar note like on the Memory Man Tape Reverse effect.
    3- Or could this cutoff (like the MemoryManHazarai)be achieved by other technical means?

    in reply to: attack decay effect #125823
    renzulli
    Participant

    Tape Reverse effect – Expression pedal

    I bought a Memory man with Hazarai last year and an AttackDecay pedal a while later.
    A realistic Tape Reverse effect still seems quite elusive to emulate. Not quite satisfied yet.
    The greatest problem creating a realistic Tpe Reverse effect seem to be:
    1 – Playing a solo it consists of longer and shorter notes. Thus geting the Swell and Decay function correctly.
    2 – With many pedlas out there you cannot decouple the reverse function from the delay function (MemorymanHazarai, Line6 Pod, Danelectro BackTalk etc.)

    The Memory Man has a nice cutoff at the end of the tone, just like the real thing when the pedal control knobs are at their most extreme position. But the downaide of this pedal is that even at its most extreme setting the signal cannot be totally dislocated from the delay function i.e repeats. Another downside is that it takes a while for the signal to get started in this setting after picking the note.

    Now the Attack Decay pedal does not suffer from these repeats since it is not coupled to a(digital/anaologue)delay.
    But a real Tape reverse effect swells slowly and then is suddenly cut off at its apex.
    With the Attack Decay the signal fades away slowly at the end. This can be altered of course with the Decay-knob but then you get these staccato like repeats. Now it sounds more like the Japanese Banjo from the EHX instruction video(when trying to shorten the cutoff by turning back the decay knob counter-clockwise) which is not at all what you’re looking for when trying to do a Tape Reverse effect. Consequently you have to turn down the Attack-knob now too but that doen’t do the trick.

    Furtermore: When playing a solo it consists of long and shorter notes. This is a problem for the Attack-knob on the AttackDecay pedal.
    Try playing the “Castles made of Sand”-solo correctly with this pedal. You’ll have a hard time.

    The manual states that an EHX Expression foot Pedal can be hooked up to the Attack Decay an give you direct control over each control-knob on the Attack Decay.

    My question now is:
    1- does anyone have some experience with an Expression pedal on the AttackDecay (decay/attack-knob),
    2- and more specific in creating a more realistic cutoff at the end of the guitar note like on the Memory Man Tape Reverse effect.
    3- Or could this cutoff (like the MemoryManHazarai)be achieved by other technical means?

    in reply to: sound intro white room on cock fight video #122675
    renzulli
    Participant

    Thanks for your quick reply. When you say 3 overdubs do you mean that 3 of the same/several chord notes are played and then recorded on top of each otherin several takes? I’m not sure i’m catching your line of thinking. How is it done in the video since it sounds it was done instantaneously in one take, and was it done the same way in the sixties?
    Dante.

    in reply to: attack decay effect #121135
    renzulli
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    Allright. I’ll check it out. Thanks for your info.

    I have dug through tons of guitarforums and youtube video’s to find more information on a tape reverse effect pedal. The comments of Theodore on the pigtronix attack sustain/ philosophers king and EHX ssm-hazarai were helpful. I’ve seen a number of other delay pedals on top of these and I would like to know if you can totally isolate the tape reverse effect from the delay effect since I’m only interested in the tape reverse effect with no delay at all. I haven’t been able to try these pedals since these are not present in local guitarshops here. If I want to try them I have to order them or buy them first on ebay without knowing on forehand if they will be what I’m looking for. I’ve ordered a Prescription Electronics Experience pedal last month for $300 but don’t like it at all. It’s a far cry from the tape reverse sounds on Jimi’s ‘Castles made of Sand’ and ‘Are you Experienced’. I don’t like the fuzz, and the swell/tape reverse option only responds for half the time and then only with the tone knob set all dark. I’ve had a Snarling Dogs Erogenous pedal which was totally useless when operated in a medium-fast solo setting.
    So what about the one-to-one tape reverse effect without the delays or tap functions for the following pedals?;
    – Pigtronix attack sustain/philosopher’s king
    – EHX ssm-Hazarai
    – Strymon Timeline/El Capistan
    – Empress Tape delay/Superdelay
    – Eventide Timefactor
    – Line6 Echo Park/ DL4
    Any other suggestions are welcome.

    in reply to: attack decay effect #119969
    renzulli
    Participant

    Allright. I’ll check it out. Thanks for your info.

    in reply to: attack decay effect #119958
    renzulli
    Participant

    I’ve read a lot of forum comments and they all claim that pigtronix is interesting but doesn’t really comes close to the EHX attack decay pedal, just as a lot of volume/swell pedals. I think it’s a shame that EHX doesn’t built a reissue of such a great pedal. There are a lot of video’s on youtube that show the sound and versatility of these pedals, but none of them really hold up to their promise such as the Danelectro Back Talk, Boss Slow Gear or the tape reverse option on the Boss Digital Delay 7 which all sound ugly and are pretty useless. I have a Snarling Dog Foot pedal (built like a Wah pedal) which has an volume and tape reverse option. But it is not really suited to simulate tape reverse in a solo since you have to move the foot pedal all the way up and then all the way down to achieve the maximum point that gives the characteristic effect of the tape reverse effect. This will not work well since the phrasing of a solo consist of very long but very fast notes too and the latter ones are a problem having to move a foot pedal all the way up or down which takes just too long. Thus pretty useless as well. Volume pedals have different characteristics that don’t really sound like a tape reverse effect.
    I remember having seen and hearing a Marshall Cream Machine effect top around 1986 that had a very impressive tape reverse effect but I haven’t found such a device on ebay or internet at all. Nobody seems to know about a Marshall Cream Machine.
    Again; anything that comes close at the moment is the Prescription Electronics Experience.

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