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  • in reply to: Bass pedals for those Dubstep/DnB/Electronic tones #112861
    Pauly Blunts
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    I’m just new to this forum, but since I’m getting deeper in effects, I’d thought I’d just sign up.

    On Talkbass there are a lot of threads considering the sick bass tones used in DnB and Dubstep and how difficult it is to achieve them with a bassguitar.

    The most difficult sound to this day is the “Wobble”.
    Most of the time people use an octaver (OC-2)+Fuzz+Moog MF-101 setup.(someone is building me a MF-101 clone at the moment directly in an expression pedal)
    Nice tone, but still not the wobble sound.
    A member of Talkbass is in the process of building, as it seems, the ultimate pedal for the wobble tone.

    Here are the specs for anyone who’s curious:

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    LFO
    -speed knob
    -depth knob
    -waveform knob:
    —sine
    —triangle
    —square
    —ramp up
    —ramp down
    —hypertriangle
    —inverted hypertriangle
    —random steps (like the old sample+hold filter sound, robotalk, seek-wah, type stuff)

    -multiplier knob: sets the relationship between taps and the speed of the LFO. This lets you tap on the quarter notes and get an LFO that is 4 times faster but still beat locked. Possible settings:
    —1/2 time
    —double time
    —triplets
    —double time triplets
    —quadruple time

    -Wave distortion knob: This lets you contort each waveform in interesting ways, and works differently on each wave. Lets you set duty cycle on the square wave, changes the spacing and “hardness” of each waveform

    Filter section:
    -cutoff frequency
    -resonance
    -envelope sensitivity
    -envelope up/down sweep switch
    -2-pole/4-pole switch

    Pitch-tracking LFO: speeds up when you play a high note, slows down on low notes. Pitch-tracking LFO is separate from the main LFO, so you can have both happening simultaneously if you want max madness.
    -pitch track knob: sets the base speed, which is then augmented by pitch control.

    Expression jacks:
    -multiplier: this is where the dubstep happens. This expression control lets you sweep through multipliers, just like the multiplier knob, except when you’re doing it with your foot, it lets you change divisions of the beat while you’re playing. It’s like a speed control, except whether you speed up or slow down you stay locked in tempo. This works whether you set the speed with the speed knob or the tap switch
    -cutoff frequency: for slow filter sweeps

    -Tap switch
    -true bypass switch

    All of the controllers can be used simultaneously (main LFO, pitch-tracking LFO, envelope, expression pedal).

    I wonder if EHX would be interested in building a pedal like this?
    Since they are a big company I’d guess they’d be able keeping costs lower, because the pedal above will be completely custom and will take a long time to build.
    Since there is a lot of interest on Talkbass considering this pedal, I’d think it would be great if EHX would come up with a sort-like pedal.
    Not to mention, it would take live electronic music (Dubstep/DnB/House) to the next level, since bass has such an important role in this genres, but was difficult to reproduce live.

    Yo. I play in a live hip-hop band (Ancient Tongue) that experiments and stretches into dubstep territory often. Not wanting to be outdone by the synth I came up with this: Bass to zvex tremolo probe to qtron plus with dist in the loop to dbx120a (subharmonic synthesizer) to DI and amp. On the tremolo probe I use my hand on easier passages and my foot on harder ones. The tap tempo trems with note value changes are cool, but after experimentation I am more accurate, artful and comfortable doing the trems manually. Then I am not stuck in patterns. The trem probe can be triggered with flicking my fingers for faster-than-foot tap tremolos. But your design idea blows everybody elses ideas away. Good work.

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