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OrcaStraightAheadMemberQuote:You could get one of these or similar:
It only has one out, but you could use a splitter to provide two outs if you’d like
oooh, and if you want your drummer to have control over tempo:
thanks for those.
they look great!
OrcaStraightAheadMemberQuote:My guess is… It’s not the looper for you guys… Playing with a live drummer and Loops can be TOUGH. It takes a lot of practice. That said, there are plenty of bands that pull it off. Don Caballero used pretty much Akai Headrush pedals exclusively – Nice Nice uses simple loopers with no drum sync, — it can be done with the boss loopers as well as the 2880. It just takes practice, and maybe a click track in ear for the drummer. They also make vibrating pulse metronomes for drummers that work well, in case the loops get lost in the mix…Any situation where man vs machine’s timing is involved there’s going to be a sway on the human part. It’s like trying to DJ disco records VS techno records. Disco, you can’t keep beat matched as it’s a live band/drummer most of the time. Techno is a drum machine, and will stay beat matched and mix just fine…
we realise its a lot of hard work. and a lot of it is just no bullshit a lot of practice and playing together. thanks for suggesting some people who do do it i’m gonna look in to them.
it’d just be a lot easier with the idea i suggested.
a simple click for a drummer won’t work. it’ll be fine for the beginning of the song. but no matter how perfect the footstomping is it will always be a millisecond out or so. the click doesn’t adjust for that. by the end of the song the difference would have been compounded.
like the rc-20xl for instance. it actually does have a click with adjustable volume with loops quantized to it. if only i could modify it to have an out for the drummer. it seems like such a simple feature. a no-brainer. and yet none of the loopers seem to have it.
OrcaStraightAheadMemberdawson i find the same thing!
i’m all good playing by myself.
but with a drummer its hard to explain.
sometimes its as if the parts i am recording are in perfect time as im playing them. then when they are played back they are out of time with the drums! and my drummer is very solid theres no way tempo will change that quickly. its some weird occurrence that happens from time to time. and its not just me my drummer is my witness.
you’d think all these loopstation makers would be smart enough to realize that not all people are trying to do the one man band. some of us like live drums! and the solution is soooooooooooooo simple. a click out. with loops quantized to that click. its not that hard.
im gonna see if i can get somebody to mod my rc-20 to have this feature. i’ll let you know how it goes. i would never pay for a 2880 or a rc-50 without this feature. i wonder if the boomerang has it.
yeah i gotta give it to ehx though. i emailed boss and they didn’t even understand the question.
very angry at the moment.
the only way i can see this working is by using a midi controller or something. set the click on that. maybe with a laptop. click will go from the laptop to the drummer and me and then in to the loopstation to sync and quantize loops to that.
but lets see laptop, veeeeeeeeery expensive looper (either rc-50 or 2880). its just not worth it.
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