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March 4, 2011 at 10:56 pm in reply to: Does the xo bass microsynth have enough headroom for the 18v preamp on a musicman bongo #114550nneekolasParticipant
First off, the output differences in certain frequencies between a passive single coil bass and an active humbucker can be very dramatic. I would highly doubt you will find one single setting that perfectly accepts both of them.
I play a Gibson Thunderbird with an 18v preamp (Xotic Tri-Logic outboard preamp) and the Bass Micro Synthesizer can certainly play nice with it. I like to set the BMS a little “hot” and adjust the sensitivity control to be a little less sensitive. I would suggest playing around with the volume of your active bass and the sensitivity slider. If you are boosting the hell out of the sub-bass frequencies on the bongo, for example, it wouldn’t be strange to find it overloading a preamp centered at a passive J.
nneekolasParticipantThe Holiest Grail is still my favorite EHX Verb pedal. The onboard preamp is what makes it special. It can get a gritty, edgy kind of reverb that none of the others can. The MIDI control is great too.
nneekolasParticipantQuote:How about a nano switcher?I don’t see any reason why they can’t put a hazarai knob and a footswitch in a nano box and have it send the HOG the same messages.
Made a new thread about it.
nneekolasParticipantQuote:How about a nano switcher?I don’t see any reason why they can’t put a hazarai knob and a footswitch in a nano box and have it send the HOG the same messages.
Now that is an idea I could get behind. Could that even somehow piggyback onto the HOG to add more possible presets?
nneekolasParticipantHey Bill, thanks for the response! Funnily enough I used to have a Ring Thing but sold it to a friend to buy a HOG! I will try out your ideas and see if I can get closer. It’s already helped to remove the 5ths from the HOG voicing and put the distortion before it. One of the best parts of all this tone alchemy is I keep stumbling on great sounds that I can actually use in my music, even if I never get my T-bird to sound like an SG, hah.
nneekolasParticipantBoss schmoss! You can get real close with the Electro Harmonix Bass Micro Synthesizer. Its a much more dynamic effect, so how you play will affect your “wobble” a lot more than the Boss SYB-5.
I set the Bass Micro Synthesizer to encourage it to behave more “glitchy” with tracking. When the sensitivity slider is all the way, you get more “glitchy” tracking. Every time you strike a string, it will re-trigger the filter section, re-starting it at a low-frequency and re-triggering the attack delay. Thus, when you play quickly, you create a “wobble.” It might be better to set your BMS similar to mine and then play around with it:
Code:Sensitivity: 10 (Most Sensitive)Sub-Octave: 10
Guitar: 2
Octave Up: 8
Square Wave: 2Attack Delay: 2 (Slightly Delayed Response)
Resonance: 10
Filter Start: 0
Filter Stop: 8
Filter Rate: 0 (Fastest)Listen to my clip where I demo this idea:
http://soundcloud.com/kyonshies/wobble-bass-with-bass-micro-synthesizer
At the start of this clip, I’m playing note combinations the BMS will not track well, thus, making it re-trigger itself in strange ways. I’m panning this back and forth with the 2880 during the mix down.
At the end of the clip, I turn off the effect and you can hear what I was playing without the effect. Playing those quick notes is what keeps re-triggering the filter for the wobble. Even though this is very determinate on how you play and how consistent you can be in your attack, this would sound great live with some practice.
nneekolasParticipantI feel like I’m getting warmer by tweaking how the Enigma filters the mids and letting the HOG’s low pass filter take care of the high frequencies. I think in those quick little demo’s up there I had too much Q and too fast of an attack and was getting too much of that “smuck / quack” autowah response.
Hmm.
nneekolasParticipantFor fun, I uploaded a couple quick 2880 recordings of my efforts so far. I used a HOG and an Enigma and recorded straight into the 2880. The only instrument used is my Gibson Thunderbird electric bass, played with a pick, and only one track of the 2880 was used for each.
The HOG settings were like this (Slider values from 0 to 10):
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Input Gain: 6
Dry Output: 0
Sub Octaves: Both 0
Original: 0
+5th: 7
+1 Oct: 2
+1 Oct + 5th: 10
+2 Oct: 2
+2 Oct + 3rd: 0
+3 Oct: 3
Envelope: ON
Lower: Zero (At the Center Detent)
Upper: +1 Towards Decay
Filter Frequency: 5
Filter Resonance: 0
[/size]The Enigma settings were like this (knob values from 7 o’clock to 5 o’clock)
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Blend: 1 o’clock
Mode: Bandpass
Attack: 2 o’clock
Decay: 7 o’clock
Start: 5 o’clock
Stop: 1 o’clock
Q: 9 o’clock
Sensitivity: 2 o’clock
[/size]Here’s an attempt to sound like a clean guitar:
http://soundcloud.com/kyonshies/bass-to-guitar-clean
Here’s an attempt to sound like a dirty guitar. I used the distortion built into the Enigma, and slightly tweaked the Attack to be slower and the Stop Frequency to be lower.
nneekolasParticipantHere’s the thing about the inverted shirt though, they already make it!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nggqa9B8Jns
Check it out, this gentleman is wearing one! I’ve seen other vids of EHX employees wearing them too. Now just sell it to us mere mortals please
nneekolasParticipantOne thing I would love to have with the #1 Echo is an effects loop. The #1 Echo’s super clean delay signal could really benefit if there was a cool modulation pedal that effected the input signal pre-delay (or maybe a switch to flip from pre to post-delay?) and of course blend the effects loop with the delay.
nneekolasParticipantWill EHX ever sell the “inverted” electro harmonix logo t-shirts? Like this logo:
http://www.whatsthatdudeplay.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/ehx-logo.jpg
That’d be great.
September 6, 2010 at 5:28 am in reply to: Falling Back In Love: The Stereo Polychorus, Two or So Years On #111280nneekolasParticipantThe Polychorus is kind of its own effect. I think the original name “Echoflanger” is a much more accurate description since it is kind of a short delay box with intense modulation.
When EHX re-issues the Stereo Polychorus I think they’d do well to call it an Echoflanger with something similar to the original graphics.
nneekolasParticipantThe Micro-Synthesizer has a lot of great tones, but it doesn’t take long to change up the sound. Once you learn the pedal, it’s easy to get back to settings you like. I wouldn’t change it.
As for analog versus digital, who cares? I can think of some awesome digital effects by EHX (Holy Grail, POG, HOG) and others (Eventide Timefactor, Boss DD-5, etc.) and awesome analog effects. If the pedal makes a sound you like then who cares how it goes about doing it?
nneekolasParticipantQuote:I am not sure who makes a volume pedal that cross fades into a separate loop.
BillMorley makes something that does something similar to this:
http://www.morleypedals.com/dfxb.html
I’m sure there are others?
nneekolasParticipantI always think that you will soon run out of little tricks, but that electric shaver idea is incredible. You’re the Houdini of effect pedals.
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