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  • in reply to: For sale: NOS SAD1024A Chip, Tested #121988
    nedblau
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    The chip is sold, thanks.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121866
    nedblau
    Member

    Well, silly me. The noise issue was apparently caused by one of my guitars! It has super high gain old Japanese single coils, and I guess the Mistress didn’t like it. I just tried it with my Strat and it’s much better. Go figure. Scruffie, thanks again for all your help and positive vibes.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121865
    nedblau
    Member

    She’s a real closet queen…

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121864
    nedblau
    Member

    Finally done with pesky work and back to what’s truly important. So, pins 2&3 on the 4558 were both 5.8v. Pins 9, 12, & 13 on the 4013 were all hovering around 6.85v. Does that seem right to you? I haven’t had time fool around with the pedal since the last time I posted, but I did notice something odd — when the bottom is off the pedal case and the pedal is upside down, I get a very clean signal. When the pedal is assembled and right side up, I hear a lot of gritty whoosh at one point in the sweep. I have several BBD flangers and this is noisier than normal.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121844
    nedblau
    Member

    I still haven’t had a chance to confirm voltages, but I did play with it a little at lunch. The static/grit is associated with the Range control — more range, more static. I’ll tweak the pots on the board and update…

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121842
    nedblau
    Member

    Hey Scruffie, I had to order the 4013 — sorry for the delay. It freakin’ works! I still need to check the voltages to really be sure everything’s okay, but I put in the new flip-flop and a new 4558 and it flanges. It’s obviously noisy, but there’s also some grit in there that seems out of place. Any suggestions? Maybe a bad resistor? Anyway, I gotta do real work now, so I’ll post revised voltages later today. Woohoo!

    Edit: this is with the old SAD1024 chip. Bonus!

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121826
    nedblau
    Member

    Awesome, getting closer. I’ll have to hit the parts store tomorrow for a 4013. I’ll send results by EOD tomorrow.

    I could have a bad 4558. I replaced the original with one I had in my parts box. I have many, so I’ll try another one.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121823
    nedblau
    Member

    This time I used the 18v wall wart instead of the batteries.

    741

    1) 0.1mv
    2) 6.6v
    3) 6.8v
    4) 24mv
    5) 5mv
    6) 14.2v
    7) 23v
    8) 8mv

    4558

    1) 6v
    2) 10mv
    3) 8mv
    4) 0
    5) 6v
    6) 6.1v
    7) 6.1v
    8) 14v

    1024

    1) 0
    2) 6.1v
    3) 3mv
    4) .3mv
    5) 14v
    6) 3.4v
    7) 14v
    8) 12v
    9) 14v
    10) 12v
    11) 14v
    12) 3.4v
    13) 0.3mv
    14) 3mv
    15) 6.1v
    16) 0

    7611

    1) 3.9v
    2) 3.7v
    3) 0.3mv
    4) 8.2v
    5) .3mv
    6) 236mv
    7) 0.4mv
    8) 0.4mv
    9) 12v
    10) 0.4mv
    11) 7.1v
    12) 12v
    13) 5mv
    14) 14v

    339

    1) 7.1v
    2) 14v
    3) 14v
    4) 3.8v
    5) 7.4v
    6) 5.6v
    7) 10.1v
    8) 97mv
    9) 6.2v
    10) 14v
    11) 0.47v
    12) 0.5mv
    13) 235mv
    14) 5.7v

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121821
    nedblau
    Member

    I’ve been using batteries. I need to do the voltages again, because now I’m getting 15v on pin 7 of the 741 (with worn batteries) and nearly 22v with an 18v power supply. I know power supplies look higher than they should when unloaded, but 22v from an 18v wall wart seems out of line. Anyway, I’ll do the voltages again tomorrow. Thanks for hanging in!

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121818
    nedblau
    Member

    Well, there’s voltage on all the ICs at least. How am I looking?

    741

    1) 0
    2) 3.3v
    3) 1.62v
    4) 0
    5) 0
    6) 1.21v
    7) 3.45v
    8) 1.6mv

    4558

    1) 1.4v
    2) 1.4v
    3) 1.35v
    4) 0
    5) 1.36v
    6) 1.4v
    7) 1.4v
    8) 3.3v

    1024

    1) 0
    2) 1.5v
    3) 1.7mv
    4) 0
    5) 3.59v
    6) 0.1mv
    7) 3.57v
    8) 0.42v
    9) 3.6v
    10) 0.42v
    11) 3.57v
    12) 0.1mv
    13) 0
    14) 3.2mv
    15) 1.49v
    16) 0

    7611

    1) 0.42v
    2) 0.42v
    3) 0
    4) 2.09v
    5) 0
    6) 23mv
    7) 0
    8) 0
    9) 0.42v
    10) 0
    11) 2.14v
    12) 0.44v
    13) 3.4mv
    14) 3.6v

    339

    1) 2v
    2) 3.6v
    3) 3.6v
    4) 0.43v
    5) 1.92v
    6) 0.92v
    7) 2.64v
    8) 25mv
    9) 1.52v
    10) 3.64v
    11) 122mv
    12) 0.1mv
    13) 23mv
    14) 0.92v

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121817
    nedblau
    Member

    Ok, will measure. I only bought the SAD 1024 because I found one relatively cheap. I figured if I didn’t use it I could sell it pretty easily. If it turns out I don’t need it, I’ll offer it here for $85, the same as I paid. I couldn’t find very many for sale anywhere, and the went from $100-$125 used to $150 for NOS. I did find $25 SAD512s though.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121814
    nedblau
    Member

    Hi Scruffie,

    Woo hoo, progress! I made all the changes suggested, and now the pedal passes signal when engaged. No effect at any adjustment of the internal pots, but engaging the effect does cause a volume drop. I understand that’s a big complaint about these pedals, but right now it sounds pretty good.

    Two questions: what should my next diagnostic step be? Should I go back through and check all the pins on all the ICs? The previous owner used a 12v power adapter with it — that’s what broke the pedal — but would that necessarily fry the SAD1024? I have a replacement, but I want to A. Be sure the old one is dead, and B. Be sure the rest of the circuit isn’t going to fry the new one.

    Can I also just bitch about the incredible flimsiness of EHX boards? I’ve worked on a lot of old circuit boards, and traces break, come away from the substrate, etc., even on high quality products. But holy crap I only have to breathe on this board to destroy the traces!

    Thanks!

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121801
    nedblau
    Member

    Is this a good schematic for me to refer to?
    http://www.freeinfosociety.com/electronics/schemview.php?id=383

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121799
    nedblau
    Member

    Awessome. Looks like I have my work cut out for me! While I was waiting for your reply I FINALLY found a schematic. It wasn’t showing up in my searches.

    in reply to: 18v Electric Mistress Troubleshooting Questions #121797
    nedblau
    Member

    Thanks Scruffie, will do!

    Both transistors are 2n3563.

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