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Thanks very much. Every bit helps. I had a few questions about your notes, in brackets below.
KitTHE “RAM’S HEAD” BIG MUFF – VERSION 2
TYPO>You list 2N5088 as a PNP transistor, it should be NPN.
(Funny. I have gone back and forth on that one, as I have been told both. I know now it is negative ground, just forgot I never fixed it!)Civil war metal can transistors are called a “TO-18” package, the black plastic ones have a “TO-92” package.
(Do you know what the actual Russian transistor numbers were?)THE SOVTEK “GREEN RUSSIAN” BIG MUFF
Only two component changes where made from the civil war muffs.
They contained high gain transistors.
(I have been told these were lower gain/lower power than the US Muff transistors. I think I read that on a few Muff mod forums as well. Do you mean they are actually higher gain than the US versions, or that the Russian Es are classified as high gain?)THE SOVTEK “BLACK RUSSIAN” BIG MUFF (SMALL BOX)
There are two versions of this box, one with four screws (current) and the one before it with six screws which was heavy duty.
(yeah, I have both pictured, just never updated the descrip)THE USA RE-ISSUE RED AND BLACK BIG MUFF – VERSION 8
3003B and 3003C use BC550C transistors.
(Thanks. I just added these with the years. I would like to see the schematics for all three. Are there component changes or just some value changes?)THE LITTLE BIG MUFF RE-ISSUE – VERSION 9
This isn’t a RI of the NYC in a smaller box, its schematic differs significantly form the NYC, you could call it a variation of the NYC.
(I knew that as well, but I never updated the descrip here either. I just fixed that one. That’s the main reason I gave this a new version number)Thanks again.
KitraeMemberAre you saying the first op-amp came out in 77 because most pots are dated 77, and the schematic is 77? Or do you have another source for that? The reason I have 78 on my site is that two collectors I deal with say it did not actually ship until 78, but it would be nice to verify that.
KitraeMemberQuote:Yea, I find new info all the time myself. If you had an IC muff with two 741’s two things could of happened, either the builder made a mistake or someone has swapped it out because I have the first IC muff factory EHX schematic and it definitely calls for a 741 and a 4558. The first IC muff came in in 77 BTW it was a 3003 PCB which is odd because it shares nothing in common with the 3003 ramshead muff, the schematic I have is dated March 77. Most version 4 muffs have 77 pots too. They only sold the version 4 for around a year then they swapped to version 5 with tone bypass, they also changed the PCB to the 1322 version. Even though there are only two opamp versions there are at least three different PCB layouts.The muffs on your page that are mine are the gut shots of the 78 version 5 opamp muff, the 1981 version 6 muff and the tonewicker muff..
Yes, I think I have all of that info on my site. I just updated the op-amp numbers. Apparently I had a rare op-amp. I have not put any of the schematics on my site since they are on numerous other sites, but it would be nice to have one wesite that includes them all to reference. Let me know when you get yours up and I’ll link to it.
How do you like the Tonewicker? I still have not gotten around to buying one. I keep blowing my extra cash on vintage Muffs!
By the way, if you don’t want your pix on my site for some reason let me know and I’ll trade them out for others. I have hundreds of Muff pix, and I probably have too much repetition already for a few versions.
KitraeMemberQuote:It should be the same circuit as the Ram’s Head, but with different graphics, judging by the On/Off switch. This one might be an early graphic before they finalized on the red line.I almost bought a ’77 version 3 last night on eBay, but decided I didn’t really want another Big Muff Pi. It sold for $125.
Weren’t the first Version 3s made without the AC on the front graphic? This one has the AC shown, so I would assume it is a later one.
KitraeMemberHave you looked at the circuit board yet? Is it an early op-amp? I have never seen one with that line in black. They would have had to cut the art apart differently to make the black silk screen include that line. I have had some experience with industrial screen printing and we used to just cut the transparencies apart with an exacto knife and mount the individual parts on each color screen to burn in the art. It is an easy mistake to make.
KitraeMemberQuote:Quote:Those are good articles, some of the first ones I found on the web when I started researching Big Muffs. Some of the dates are wrong, but a good history.Some of your big muff info is inaccurate. I noticed a few things and I will compile a list of them later.
I noticed you have a least 3 of my big muffs on your page too.LOL
A few of your version number designations are wrong also and you are missing the 2007 and 2008 NYC RI Big Muffs.
Once I post a list you can amend your site and it should be good.Coincidentally, I’m making a Big Muff site myself.
Also so you know, the 77 and 78 opamp Big muffs used one LM741 and one RC4558 not two LM741’s.By all means, please let me know if you find anything inaccurate that you can verify, and thanks in advance. I find new info practically every week that lets me clear up inaccuracies, and that is the main reason I am looking here. There were not that many posters in the beginning but this forum seems to be growing a bit.
Most of the pix I used came from other sources, many emailed to me by people on forums I frequent, so I have no idea where half of them came from. I big chunk of those are from my collection. Which are yours?
Regarding the version numbers, I decided to re-number the versions I have seen used elsewhere for reasons I state in the article, and I defined what makes a “version” in my opinion. I’m sure others will disagree.
Regarding the RI Muffs, which interest me the least unfortunately, sorry, I don’t have everything up to date. I’m slowly adding info. I have seen the different mother boards, but I have not compared them to see if there are any major component changes to warrant calling them a new version. Any help would be appreciated.
Regarding the op-amps, my first one had two LM741s, pots dated 1978. I just got another 78 a few weeks back but I have not checked the op-amp numbers yet (Edit – I just checked, one UA741CP and one RC4558). Most of the op-amp photos I have seen of other op-amps clearly show the two different types, I just never updated the description to say both were made. You seem to be the op-amp guy, so let me know of anything else you find.
KitraeMemberThe picture is not there anymore, but I think this was it. It’s an OEM Ram’s Head.
http://www.kitrae.net/music/Marveltone Rams Head.jpgYou will have to copy the entire link above into your browser. This website does not seem to be able to handle a photo link or embedded photo with a space in the name.
KitraeMemberI didn’t either, and I don’t list one on my website, but two collectors have told me they were actually made. One of them said he owned and used one in the early 70’s. I would like some more info on that if anyone has pix.
The Foxey Lady is the only one I know for a fact was made into a three knob.
KitraeMemberThose are good articles, some of the first ones I found on the web when I started researching Big Muffs. Some of the dates are wrong, but a good history.
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because i just found one in a guitar center in FL. purchased with much quickness. all im finding is that it was the “first” EH pedal in 1968 and assorted sites list is as “impossibly rare” but i dont see any actual production numbers. anyone got any further fun trivia for me?I have a bit of history about the Axis on my Big Muff page. I believe it was 1967 that the two knob version was first sold. It layer changed to the three knob version, which was identical to the Triangle Big Muff. There was a Foxey Lady version, and supposedly, an Axis version.
KitraeMemberI have some EH history on my Big Muff page, but it mostly relates to the Big Muffs. I pulled info from practically every source on the web, music magazines, stomp box books, and talking to other collectors and sellers.
KitraeMemberThe earliest I remember seeing the USA re-issues was 2000, though they may have actually come out in 1999. I list 2000 on my Big Muff page.
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