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KartoonHeadMember
A couple of my heros;
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/6/69191552_431d5721a8_o.jpgand again
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9016/dreamrigmarsvolta2pq.jpgJohn Frusciante
http://www.guitarplayer.com/oldcontentimages/web/e/d/h/pedal_board_002.jpgKartoonHeadMemberI’d be inclined to say first in the chain, but that’s likely only because it’s got the word ‘octave’ in it so I naturally want to feed it a dry signal. If you watch the ‘Effectology’ vids you’ll notice that a lot of the time the POG (be it micro, or POG2) is placed after a big muff or some other distortion, and sometimes even after a modulation effect, whilst other times it’s second in the chain generally after a compressor, so I suppose you’ll just have to use trial and error to see where it sounds best for you.
KartoonHeadMemberWell they should. I’ll put it in the ‘Idead/Suggestions/Feedback’ bit. Hopefully someone’ll get round to reading it.
KartoonHeadMemberhttp://www.experimentalistsanonymous.com/diy/Schematics/Guitar Synth and Misc Signal Shapers/Electro Harmonix Bass Synthesizer.jpg
A schem’ that size scares the life outa me, have fun with it xD
EDIT: Don’t know why the link’s showing up like that, copy the whole thing and paste it into your browser
KartoonHeadMemberNothing wrong with doing that at all, it’s likely that the only difference between the two units is the input and output capacitor values anyways, so you might get a little less bass when you switch it on, but apart from that you’re fine to use it with bass.
KartoonHeadMemberOh, you’re right about that, do EHX not do an FX loop pedal then? *hint hint*
KartoonHeadMemberQuote:I tried different voltagesWhich voltage did you try first? If it’s 9VDC then anything higher than 12VDC (or anything AC) will have likely fried the ICs.
KartoonHeadMemberThis happens with nearly every ‘vintage’ pedal in the world. It’s do to with how the bypass switch is wired; the input is always connected to the effect input, even when bypassed, meaning half of your signal is going into the muff circuit when you’re not using it, and most likely ending up being flushed to ground with some leakage into the output (which you can hear).
Quick solution; wire it for true-bypass, or if you don’t know how to, take it to a professional. They’ll probably charge you about £15 for it as the switch for true-bypass is expensive, £5 on it’s own, so £15 for this modification is reasonable.
If you want to avoid opening it up you can always use an FX loop pedal (like the EHX Switchblade) this, shockingly, is cheaper to make yourself than it is to pay someone to mod the pedal for you, it will however take up more room on your board.
Your call!
Hope this helped.
KartoonHeadMemberFor space rock and psychaedelic rock you’ll want the Stereo Memory Man w/ Hazarai for the wackiest effects and spacey ambience. I wouldn’t go for an analog delay simply because it’s features will be far more limited and your maximum delay time will be dramatically reduced, it also rules out any use as a loop pedal as analog BBD’s will distort and mash your signal beyond recognition after 3 or 4 repeats. Not to say that analog delays aren’t used in the kind of music you play; many bands and guitarists have famously used self-oscillating analog delays to create crazy soundscapes, I do it myself with a cheap Artec ADL-2, and it’s something only possible with an analog delay, but that’s the only spacey thing you can really do with it, after that you run out of options; something which won’t happen with the SMMw/H <- that thing'll keep spewing craziness at you 'til the end of time.
KartoonHeadMemberI’m not sure what you’re asking here. Are you asking why the Micro POG isn’t true-bypass? There really isn’t an answer for that question, but I can confirm that you’re right about it not being true bypass.
Maybe a 3pdt simply wouldnt fit into the case with everything else, or the manufacturing costs had to be kept under a certain amount and including true bypass would have resulted in a non-cost-effective product, don’t think we’ll ever know. Very few pedals with two outputs are true bypass (Marshall Echohead, EHX SMM with Hazarai, EHX Cathedral, and so on), so maybe it was a decision between having the wet/dry output option or having true bypass and EHX found that the two output option was the way forward.
You could always buy an EHX Switchblade and put the microPOG in the FX loop, this would act as a true-bypass switch. Even better make your own, these are the easiest kind of pedals to make; no components in them whatsoever, just 4 jacks and a switch (assuming you’re not fussed about an LED).
Hope this helps!
EDIT: Just noticed the Switchblade is an ABY pedal, not a loop pedal, so ignore that bit. This is what I mean by loop pedal;
http://superkingpedals.com/images/pedals/superlooper.pngKartoonHeadMemberGo me for posting 3 times in-a-row but I have some useful info!
Just gonna copy/paste the email response from EHX support, you can see what I sent at the bottom.
Hello. Some of the units that were shipped about a month ago had this
problem. If you placed the order yesterday morning the new units are
unaffected.
RegardsAt 11:31 AM 12/6/2010, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>I’ve been hearing a lot of reports of new POG2 units reverting their
>8-slot preset bank back to factory settings upon power-down. Have
>these defective units been recalled and replaced? Or has the problem
>not been completely identified yet? I need to know this as I put an
>order in for a POG2 yesterday morning prior to hearing these reports
>(most of which I found as unattended technical help requests on your
>forum, which I think you might want to read) and simply wish to know
>if the unit I’m to receive will likely be a defective one. I’ve
>requested that the retailer put my order on hold until I investigate
>the situation further.
>
>Thanks for any help you can provide,
>
>a loyal Electro-Harmonix enthusiast,
>
>Martin.As you can see they replied within a couple of hours of me sending the first email, even though I was a little aggressive in my tone. I’m quite happy with that! Off to order my POG2 now
Hope that helps sum this up.
KartoonHeadMemberPutting your signal through any electrical component (let alone an amplifier) will distort it’s phase to some degree, so your two signals are almost definately ‘out of phase’. You can build a simple 1:1 phase inverting buffer which you can use on one of your signal chains to see if it improves your sound or not, other than that there’s no real way of phase-aligning your two signal paths. Either way phase won’t be an issue if both signals are treated differently so don’t worry about things like phase cancellation etc.
KartoonHeadMemberAnnoying that you don’t get any real support from EHX on here isn’t it?
I had a similar experience with a solid state distortion pedal, worked for a bit, then the drive and volume went a bit erratic, then everything got very warm. I can only put it down to an internal component failure (as I’m still using that same power supply to power my whole pedal board), most likely something on the power rail failing and sucking too much current, maybe flushing it to ground, that usually gets things really got.
Sorry I couldn’t be of any more assistance, but I’m not really qualified in this area :p
KartoonHeadMemberIf anyone here’s bought a POG2 in the past 6-8 weeks (new) and their presets are saving as they should even after cutting power from the unit can you please say so? I’ve cancelled my POG2 order for now, just don’t want to take the risk.
KartoonHeadMemberI’ve emailed digitalvillage.co.uk requesting that they check the pedal before sending it out to me and if it won’t save presets to send it back to E-H and cancel my order. If I’d have ended up with a defective POG2 on christmas I’d have been in tears.
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