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Fender&EHX4everModerator
I just recorded this demo clip: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7428151
Section 1: Squier Jagmaster (stock, middle position), Clean with Room Reverb
Section 2: Fender CIJ Mustang RI (stock, middle position), Fuzz with Pitch Shift
Section 3: Fender CIJ Mustang RI (stock, middle position), Fuzz with Trem/Verb
Section 4: Fender CIJ Mustang RI (stock, middle position), Drive with Hall ReverbFender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:Hello… I just bought a Flanger Hoax and it’s strangely silent. Is it supposed to be like that? The pedal has no volume contol knob, and when I play with it bypassed the sound volume is normal. When I turn the Flanger on, it turns the sound down a lot. There must be something wrong with it if the volume levels are so different with it on and off. I paid a lot of money for this, because let’s be honest, your pedals aren’t cheap. So what’s the deal with this Flanger cutting my output level? Is it broken or is it supposed to work like this?Try some of these settings: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showpost.php?p=23027521&postcount=37
You might hear a slight volume drop, but not as much as you are saying.
Are you using the correct power supply?
Are you using other pedals in your chain? If so, try plugging your guitar directly into the Flanger Hoax, and then go directly to your amp from the blended output of the Flanger Hoax. Is there still a major volume drop? If so, then you might have a faulty unit. If not, then something else in your chain is interfering with the signal.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorThis is the review I posted at HCFX:
I don’t have any clips yet, but I hope to post some soon.
After 2 years, I finally got around to buying a Holy Stain. I remember all the pre-release excitement we felt around the Harmony Central Effects Forum when we first heard about it. Then it was released, and a flood of disappointment filled HCFX, so I decided to hold off until I found one for a ridiculous price. Well, that finally happened, so I’ve decided that the time has come to pull all things Holy Stain together in a thread, and share ideas for how to use it optimally.
My initial impression of it?
It’s a really weird pedal :freak: Perhaps, unwittingly, that is it’s strength. It forces the user to let go of expectations about what a multi-effect should be – to let go of the notion that a multi-effect should be flexible enough for the user to have control over all parameters. It forces the user to do the bidding of the box – but not vice versa.
In fact, the manual says that the Holy Stain is “the first multi-effect pedal from Electro-Harmonix.” I think this is somewhat misleading, and part of the reason for some of the initial disappointment. The Holy Stain makes much more sense if you think of it as a dirt pedal with hazarai.
You have 3 presets with the Dirt knob – Drive, Fuzz, and Clean – No continuous gain control, drive control, or blend control. But even the Clean mode is really a light boost. You can’t bypass this Dirt section and use the other effects in isolation. Therefore, at the heart of the Holy Stain is really a dirt box.
But even as a dirt box, it’s very weird. The Color knob (which is also sort of an EQ) has 3 presets (like the Dirt knob), love ’em or leave ’em. So the Holy Stain has 3 presets of Dirt, 3 presets of Color, a continuously adjustable Tone knob and a continuously adjustable Volume knob. If you don’t like the level of gain/drive in the 3 presets, tough. That’s what you get. Are the Dirt presets good? I really like them, and they are different from other EHX dirt pedals that I have – Big Muff Pi, Germ OD, Hot Tubes, and Tube Zipper.
So the bonus effect modes? Here’s where things get really weird.
The tremelo should have been called tremoverb, because it’s a blend of both tremelo and reverb that can’t be separated. Forget about using the Holy Stain to replace your dedicated tremelo. Granted, the exp/amount-knob control does adjust the rate of the trem, which is great, but it also increases the amount of reverb simultaneously Very peculiar. Again, let go, and go with it. Write a song to fit the function.
The pitch shifter is really bizarre. I don’t think I’ve ever had a need to shift my pitch up to a 3rd or down to a fourth. I guess it’s time to write a song that does need it. As for the latency of the shifted signal, it’s not any worse than my PS-3’s latency, but certainly not as smooth as a POG or HOG. You can clearly hear a delay in the shifted signal. Using my M-Audio EXP-1, I can get some variation in the stop and start points of the expression sweep by adjusting the volume knob on the expression pedal. Not bad, but I’m still stuck with the max range of a 3rd up and a 4th down. One great feature of this mode is that you can get a decent non-cyclical chorus/slapback sound if you nudge the amount knob just a hair past noon.
The reverbs are really cool, and sound different enough from the Grail series verbs. They have a nice singing quality to them with long decays. As long as you’re happy with the 3 Dirt presets, the reverbs are very useable. My complaint is that the Amount knob at minimum does not minimize the reverb to a dry signal. This would have been really cool for the expression pedal, so you could let a chord or note ring out with a long decay, and then noodle over the top with a dry signal (much like the Holiest Grail). But alas, it doesn’t do this.
It’s next to impossible to get a consistent volume in this pedal when switching between the 3 dirt modes. The volume drop from the Fuzz mode to the Clean mode is tremendous. There is some variation in volume between the effect modes as well. So forget about presetting the knobs, and using the mode footswitch to change tones mid-song. Your volumes will be all over place. Very strange, because when you switch modes, you will inevitably need to kneel down and adjust the knobs which renders the footswitch useless. So why even have the mode selector be a footswitch? The mode selector would have been just as useful as a rotary knob.
So what would have been useful for the footswitch instead? It would have been awesome if it had been a patch selector for a digital memory bank with the ability to store knob settings, much like the SMMH. Even if it only had 2 presets, that already would have been a vast improvement to the live functionality of this pedal.
Was it worth the price I paid for it? Absolutely. The Holy Stain is a very inexpensive pedal, so it’s tough to complain about all of its shortcomings. The dirt presets and the reverbs alone are worth the price. But I would have easily paid an extra $50+ to have had the memory storage feature.
So far, I’ve found the best combo is to use my Squier Jagmaster (because of the high output humbuckers) into the Holy Stain direct. It gives a great crunchy OD tone with a bit of predelay reverb for staccato chords.
Mode: Room Reverb
Mix: 9:00
Amount: 7:00
Volume: Max
Tone: 11:00
Color: Warm
Dirt: Clean[IMG]http://i6.ebayimg.com/02/i/001/35/5f/18f5_1.JPG[/IMG]
Fender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:EHX can surely fix it – can you bring it back to the store?
This malfunction shouldn`t happen…Very strange – I left it alone for a day, and now it’s back to normal.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorThe Small Stone is an easily recognizable and classic phaser voice, so you can’t go wrong with it. It’s the least flexible, however, of the three phasers.
The Stereo Polyphase is probably the most flexible phaser of the three. It has stereo outputs, adjustable sweep range for both the start and stop points, 2 different wave shapes, expression pedal input for manual phasing, and an envelope filter to get Q-tron-like filtering. As Julian mentioned, I felt that the blend of the phase to direct signal somehow was too subtle for my taste. I wish a blend knob had been incorporated, or at least a trimpot.
The Flanger Hoax is a great phaser as well. Keep the Delay Mode knob at DC to isolate it. You can get some really bizarre phaser voicings by adjusting the 2 delay lines. What’s great about the Flanger Hoax is that it can approximate many other modulations that would be useful for organ and keyboard – rotary, vibe, tremelo, warbly chorus, and of course flanger. It has 3 outputs, but it is not a stereo effect. The outputs are effect, direct, and blend. Still, there is a lot you can do with these.
My recommendation is to get the Small Stone and the Flanger Hoax both
Fender&EHX4everModeratorSo the old White Finger isn’t True Bypass? I never noticed.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:Give these folks a break! The price is ridiculous, but buddy has bills to pay.I think I’d be apt to give them a break if they’d give details on which pedals are functioning flawlessly, and which pedals have issues. For anything selling at $2500, the buyer deserves to have some details.
No one’s going to complain if the Switch Blade needs a new Carling switch. But if the Memory Man or the Electric Mistress are missing SAD1024 BBD chips, for example, that could be a pain in the ass, and it would bring down the price considerably.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorYep, I posted a link to that auction about a month ago: https://www.ehx.com/forums/viewthread/23/P30/#7075
Assuming that any of the choice units could be missing parts or malfunctioning, there’s only about $1000 worth of pedals there at best.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:What happened to your project?I finally picked up an EHX 12VR8 speaker last week and installed it. It sounds smashing! No more rattle either.
This amp has endless cool all over it. When I get an opportunity soon, I’ll post some clips of it in action. The cleans are really bright and punchy, and the dirt tones are incredible for a solid state amp (though way too loud for my apartment). I can’t believe EHX hasn’t reissued this gem.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorI’ve actually never tried a Behringer pedal. I”d be curious to try the Time Machine in particular, and hear if the tone is as close to the Deluxe Memory Man as the enclosure and cosmetic design are. If it is, then bravo for being able to sell it at $60. If not, then f**ck ’em for suckering all the folks trying to save a buck thinking they have the same thing.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorI’ve had (or used) at least 2 versions of the 18v, 1 version of the 9v, 1 version of the Dlx using the SAD1024 chip, and the more recent Dlx.
I currently have an older 18v with the beige board, and a Dlx with the green graphic and SAD1024 chip.
The 18v and 9v usually go for the most money, especially if they are in great condition. From what I’ve seen, they usually draw anywhere from $200 – $300. I’m sure this is because of all the iconic artists who used them – Gilmour, Summers, Levene, Lifeson, Trower, etc.
The vintage Dlx models can sometimes draw up to $175, but usually just above the $100 mark. i see the reissues go for under $100 used on eBay frequently.
Tonewise, my 18v suffers from a bit of volume drop and bass drop; but the treble is more present, and It has much more range in the modulation depth. It is crisp and airy sounding, and the leslie-type settings are better than my Dlx. My Dlx has a bit of volume boost, especially in the lower frequencies; so the Dlx sounds fuller and more syrupy than the 18v.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorCool. I wonder what the bpm range is? It might be cool to use it to trigger your space drum also.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorMy micro synth takes a minute or so to warm up after it’s been powered down for awhile.
Fender&EHX4everModeratorAwesome! i can’t wait to see the video.
Right now I have the Crash Pad, Sonic Boomer, and Instant Replay. I would love to have a Rolling Thunder and a Clap Track someday.
I want to make a complete kit with these boxes for some retro-electro tunz.Fender&EHX4everModeratorQuote:my BS detector is blinkingMine was too. But was there ever a vintage Freq An in the deluxe enclosure, or did they only use the dlx encl for the reissues?
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