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February 11, 2009 at 12:14 am in reply to: TUBE EQ “CRACKS ANDS SPARKS” NOISE WHEN RECORDING. PLEASE HELP! #93048cuppajackParticipant
I know a couple people (me included) have been having some similar problems with other tube petals:
https://www.ehx.com/forums/viewthread/291/
i wonder if these could be related?
cuppajackParticipantAn Update:
I ended up RMAing the unit to the shop and receiving a replacement. The problem is still there!
I sat down last night and really tried to get to the bottom of it.
The unwanted fizz/crackle is there as treble-y notes decay.
It happens on my PocketPOD but is much, MUCH more noticeable on the Vox AC15CC.I can sort-of mostly dial it out by backing way off of the top-boost treble knob on the amp, cutting the highs on the Muff’n’s EQ and maybe dialing back on the guitar’s tone knob.
The other thing that seemed to help (or was it just my imagination?) was to put the Muff’n in front of my 2 non-true bypass pedals (a Vox Wah and a digitech Whammy.)
I’ve read of others having issues with stock AC15CCs and overdrive pedals, so I’ll eventually try the “bright cap” removal mod that supposedly will help.
I’m beginning to think the fizz/crackle is just a part of the fuzz characteristics of the pedal, but it just gets blown out of proportion by the AMP…
cuppajackParticipantQuote:HiI have exactly the same problem with my Muff’n. I replaced the valves as advised by EHX, but no change at all!
If you figure out how to fix this, please do post the solution!
Thanks
DrMuff’n
DrMuff’n, what kind of amp are you using?
cuppajackParticipantDamn! Somehow I missed that the Worm could use an expression pedal! That would have definitely been at the top of my list.
I ended up with a VOX Wah after trying the somewhat limited selection at Sam Ash (evidently somebody’s tech had been in the day before and bought 2 dozen Wahs of all different kinds…)
I tried the Hendrix Signature, the Behrringer, the VOX, and a couple others… The Vox was right in the middle of them all in the looks and price department, didn’t have as many features as the Behrringer and one other, but sounded the best by far.
I was actually kind of impressed with the Behrringer… A lot of options in a Wah that was under $50. But it looked and felt like it was under $50 and I have a rule about buying ugly and cheep gear…
I also ended up taking home a Digitech Whammy…
cuppajackParticipantThanks Mel!
You are always so helpful!
cuppajackParticipantI honestly have no idea how much I’m going to use this… Or if I’ll even be able to ‘learn’ it enough TO use it…
But I love the sounds they make! Cream and Hendrix just wouldn’t have been the same…
The thing to do would be to try out the whole mess of them, but I’ve stepped on a Wah exactly twice before so I don’t really know what I’m doing enough to even test them out!
We will see what the local shops have in-stock tomorrow…
cuppajackParticipantQuote:mmm…..right, firstly was this a present from parents? basically i’m wondering if you can take it back to the shop, ask to try another and see if it’s the same. There could be a problem with one of the tubes in the muffin, maybe it got slightly damaged during transit or something…..if there is a problem the shop should exchange it for you or give you the money back.if that isn’t really possible then I would suggest trying new tubes in the muffin, just get some inexpensive sovteks and see if that cures the problem because it seems the most likely to me.
is there anyway you can record what it sounds like?
I’m gonna pop over to Harmony Central and post a link to this thread, maybe someone who owns one will be able to help a bit more.
Thanks for all the help Electro-Melx!
It was a parental gift, though, like so many things these days, was ordered on-line. I’m going to contact the vendor and see what their exchange policies are. Failing that, one can never have too many 12AX7 tubes laying around can they?
I’ll see if I can’t get an illustrative recording of the phenomenon this evening.
Thanks again.
cuppajackParticipantFollowing up:
I Sat down last night with the intention of getting to the bottom of the static issue with the English Muff’n + AC15CC. Unfortunately ended my little trouble-shooting session somewhat frustrated.I first swapped all cables in the chain, and tried the set-up again, this time with my Charvel. I expected the hotter Seymour Duncan pick-ups to exasperate the problem, but to my surprise the static/crackly/fizz seemed to be lessened when I used the Charvel, although it was still present at a level that I found unacceptable.
After much research yesterday I fully anticipated to find microphonic tubes in the AC15, but before breaking out the tools to try the “tap test” on the tubes I took a step back and plugged the Muff’n into my Line6 PocketPOD and which I monitored with headphones. To my frustration the static was still present! And only increasing my annoyance was that the underlying tone was unreal.
So I guess that the problem does not lay with the AC15 after all… I “tap-tested” the tubes in the Muff’n and couldn’t hear any microphonic feedback. Just to make sure, I cranked the AC15 and hit a few wall-rattling chords. Damn did that sound sweet. Now I’m asking myself , “is this is a bug or a feature?”
Possibly a bad pedal? Or is this static-y overtone just part of the English Muff’n’s unique sound that I can’t year in any samples I listen to?
cuppajackParticipantQuote:Quote:Sounds like microphonic tubes…….have you tried it with a different amp? those Vox CC’s are notorious for having issues from new.
I haven’t really put it through its paces in another amp… I’ll give it a good workout with my PocketPOD tonight.
Would you suspect Microphonic tubes in the Amp of in the Muff’n itself?
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