I’m sorry. Let’s drop it.

the customer is not always right. that’s why that phrase doesn’t mean anything.

how about the electric mistress in filter matrix? would that create sort of the same idea?

So this is just how it works?

bummer.

i don’t want to have to dance to make the effect do what my carbon copy does with a simple click.

the added control of every parameter, effects loop, expression pedal, tap tempo, tap divide, modulation control…. all of that is just not enough to make up for this issue. i guess simpler is better. plus the mxr pedal will run off a one-spot without heinous noise.

i’ll keep the DMB on hand to see if maybe i can use it for something, but sadly, it’s probably going to end up on eBay.

Well, trust me dude, I did not mean to stir up a fight at all.

you’re right about what you have said. but so am i. technically, a lot of this crap SHOULDN’T work. but a lot of it does. electricity is just magic, when you really bear it out.

i was just really worried when you said “try any tube in any amp”. because that just doesn’t work. some kid is going to read your post and put EL34’s in his tweed deluxe clone to “get more out of it”, and then wonder why his new tubes are ruined — because he “read on the internet you could do it”.

most people don’t know how to measure voltage at all, but they can put a tube in a socket. so I was just trying to say “there’s more to it than just swapping tubes.”

Yikes. Don’t say you can put any tube in any amplifier! That’s how misinformation gets out there and all of a sudden people don’t know what they’re talking about.

It’s not all about bias and plate voltage. For one thing, different tubes have difference impedance, which affects the overall output impedance. (If you have an amp with KT66’s, and you swap to EL34’s, it cuts the output impedance by half. so you have to move your impedance selector up one notch. assuming you even have a selector – a lot of amps don’t. otherwise you could potentially damage your tubes and output transformer over time, because of the mismatch.)

Also, there is the value of the screen resistor. In amps with 6V6’s, it’s usually pretty small… 470 ohm 1 watt. if you’re going to use 6L6’s, you should move that up to 470 ohm 5 watt. if you’re going to use EL34’s, KT66, KT88, you should increase it to 1K ohm 5 watt.

Then there is the increase in output if you move up to bigger tubes. You really ought to increase the power of your output transformer if you’re going to move from 6L6 to KT88. a pair of 6L6 generally puts out about 35-45w. a pair of KT88 is about double that. that’s great if you want to increase the wattage of your amp, but be sure your output transformer can handle it.

The other thing I can think of is that 6L6 and 6V6 don’t use pin 1, so a lot of amplifiers use this a tie point for other components (grid resistor, etc). EL34’s and KT66 do use pin one, and it must be tied to pin 8 which goes to ground. it could spell disaster if you put an EL34 in an amp which is not designed with them in mind, for instance.

These are just some of the reasons you should not put any tube in any amplifier — at least not before you do your homework, and find out what’s going on internally, as well as taking impedance into consideration.

+1 on the ring thing, especially with an expression pedal. it works like the Whammy always wanted to. the tracking is FLAWLESS.

i’m going to guess list will be around $500 or so