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  • January 5, 2012 at 11:33 am in reply to: 2880, midi Ext Clock slave, quantize, new loop… 4 beat count in? #116675
    bassplayer60
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    Hey/welcome

    1- the looper slaves really well to external clocks like drum machines (I use mine with korg electribes, etc). With starting and stopping a loop, you’d have to leave the drum machine going (so if you wanted to cut the drums, you’d want to cut the audio output, not just hitting ‘stop’).

    Starting and stopping either would result in asynchronicity- by this, I don’t mean your loops wouldn’t be quantized to the same bpm as your drum mahine, but their beat 1 could be the drum’s beat 2.1 . It wouldn’t line up if you’re starting/stopping either one. However, by muting things or sending control messages to the faders (thereby cutting things out) you can give the appearance of starting/stopping.
    Also reverse will cause asychronicity and octave will be disabled. Also changing bpms on your master will cause speedups/slowdowns of your loops. All things that can either be used to your advantage when they’re known or avoided due to careful drum programming.

    2- the footswitch. A standard amp fs won’t work with this. The options are the ehx hog, 2880, or 16 second delay foot controllers or a midi controller, which you’ll have to program for use yourself. As in the other 2880 thread, I recommend the fcb1010, modded with a rewritable eeeprom.

    I don’t want to do a ‘midi message to start recording the looper….I just want to press start on the looper? Cannot?
    Also once I set the speed for that song….I wouldn’t want to change the tempo / speed up or slow down…?

    on the “footswitch” you mean I cannot just use a start / stop pedal for the 2880? So I need to have specifically that Control pedal put out by EH?

    I also am getting confused with turning off the audio instead of stopping either?

    Maybe I’m missing the idea of how the 2880 works…but I don’t have one yet…I was thinking about it because it supposed to be able to sync to external clock is all….but I need everything to work as is…

    Drum machine…start../ stop

    Looper…Tempo locked to Drum machine / and operate as a looper…punch in…record loop…punch out…play back answers me immediately…..SOLO over it..punch looper out…play live….end song.

    So…2880 cannot do that …. I feel it’s quite straight forward. Maybe I’m looking at the wrong Looper for my needs if this is the case. ???

    V

    January 5, 2012 at 11:23 am in reply to: 2880, midi Ext Clock slave, quantize, new loop… 4 beat count in? #116674
    bassplayer60
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    So I cannot just stop the play of the looper….and punch it on again?

    Basically all I wanted was the drum machine to operate as the ‘master’…and the 2880 looper to slave to it…but I needed the looper to operate as a looper like the drum machine wasn’t even hooked up to it….just accepting the midi time clock info so they would sync and not lose time as time went on.

    Basically I want to play ‘live’…using basically my drum machine / voice / and guitar…then punch a loop in the middle of the song….where I lay down chords for whatever…(say chorus or verse), and then solo over it…then punch loop off and play live again, with just the drum, voice and guitar…and looper off?

    Not something really difficult…

    If anyone can help I sure would appreciate it….I want to keep it as simple as possible…No recording or audio quirks…just simple straight forward..playability type question.

    Vern =)

    January 3, 2012 at 9:47 pm in reply to: 2880, midi Ext Clock slave, quantize, new loop… 4 beat count in? #116665
    bassplayer60
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    Hi Everyone…it’s 1/3/2012 and I just joined this forum….and I think I at least found the right location to post my questions. I think we have similar needs but not quite exactly the same. So if I may…I’d like to post my question in hopes that one of you could answer my question…as I am interested in picking up a unit, but have not yet…because I don’t want to spend more money on trying to sync loopers to drum machines…I already went through the Boss 20XL and the 50 they are junk!

    Anyway I have an Akai XR20 drum machine and I like it a lot…but was maybe thinking of getting the 2880 for it’s external clock syncing capability.

    This is what I would like to do…I am a solo performer (looper would be used mainly for that….live performance), and I want my drum machine to be the ‘master’…as I need to have it play almost continuously once the song has started…hence the 2880 would become the slave to the time clock laid down by the Akai XR20.

    Now…I am hoping that other than that…the 2880 will operate as normal…in other words I can start it at any time…and stop it after the use of the loop (in this case where I would solo over the loop), but I expect that the drum machine would continue un affected. Gosh I hope i”m making sense…

    Does anyone have the knowledge or experience of doing something like that? I have no need to use the 2880 as a master, or have no need for external start stop….other than what’s on the machine per se.

    Also I notice that other loopers have the foot button etc…alll on the same unit? Can the 2880 be used with a standard foot switch or do I need the EH foot controlller?

    I appreciate any help I can get from you guys! Thank you! Vern.

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