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January 4, 2010 at 9:42 am #79627MarkMember
Could someone tell me what model this Muff is?
I have seen people talk about V5, V6, but it doesn’t make much sense to me at the moment.
Thanks for your assistance.
Mark
January 4, 2010 at 9:43 am #106011MarkMemberA better picture.
January 4, 2010 at 10:14 am #106012Ned FlandersModeratorVersion ?(Would you believe it, I forget the number!) Anyways its the 2000 revision done by fran from frantone electronics. There’s a 2008 model out now, it sounds slightly different.
I call it version 7 because I dont class the Sovtek muffs as part of the same series of pedals as they arent EHX(well they are and arent, its subjective), kit rae would call it something else but considering its a EHX NYC BMP pedal,that makes it a version 7 in my book. I call the sovteks by v1,v2,v3 etc with the red army overdrive being version1 of sovtek.
But considering a lot of people go to kits site for version numbers i dont call them by my version numbers, I usually use his numbering system to save confusion. But yes, its the 7th NYC Big Muff put out by EHX, the first one since the 3034 and since EHX went bust.
Kit calls it version 9!
http://www.kitrae.net/music/big_muff_history2.html
Check his site out, its great although not 100% accurate IMHO ( this is subjective too), its damn close though!
January 4, 2010 at 8:24 pm #106036devnulljpParticipantWhat he said.
Synopsis
v1 is the triangle (although there are at least two major variants and a number of subspecies)
v2 is the ram’s head (again variants and subspecies): EH3003
v3 is the first red/black graphic, but still transistors: EH3003
v4 & 5 are op-amp based — v4 has on/off switch, v5 tone bypass — different boards inside: EH1322, EH3003, EH3003-B (later boards have green mask)
v6 transistor again 2N5088
EHX tanks
Sovteks
Return of EHX with your Fran muff followed by the recent RIs…January 5, 2010 at 11:09 am #106076MarkMemberThanks for the replies. To be frank, I’m not finding too much love for this version of the Muff. I don’t think this is Fran’s best work.
Quote:The tone is in the same family as the version 6 Big Muff, though this is not actually a reissue of that version. It is a bit more muffled (muffier?), and buzzy-fizzy sounding, without the clarity of most of the vintage USA Muffs. Mids are very scooped. The bottom end of the tone differs from vintage USA made Muffs from the 1970s. It does not react as sharply to pinch harmonics as the V3 Muff and does not work well with palm muting.This description is it in a nut shell. I decided to seek out the “vintage” tone mentioned in the description above.
I looked around for various Muff circuits on General Guitar Gadgets etc. I built up their version on a prototype board, I used common as muck 2N3904 transistors and the thing buried the V9. I am most disappointed, I thought EHX has been building these things for so long they must have it down to a fine art by now. Not so.
I dare say it is time to pull out the soldering iron.
I wouldn’t say don’t buy a Muff pedal, but don’t make an eBay purchase, hear it first.
Mark
P.S. I should point out my old Memory Man Deluxe is excellent, never missed a beat, and many classic tones!
January 5, 2010 at 11:33 am #106077Ned FlandersModeratorIf you wana really good muff buy the tone wicker muff or the 2008 NYC muff (basically a tone wicker muff without the bells and whistles) they really are the best muffs EHX has put out since the 80’s, easily!
I like the one you have actually,its really thick. its not my favorite but I still like it.
I own more than a couple of muffs and I’ve only been collecting for 2 years: (but there’s members here that put me to shame with how many they have:lol: )
http://i1016.photobucket.com/albums/af286/fenderamerica/Big Muff/MYBIGMUFFS.jpgJanuary 5, 2010 at 7:34 pm #106102devnulljpParticipantQuote:Thanks for the replies. To be frank, I’m not finding too much love for this version of the Muff…This description is it in a nut shell. I decided to seek out the “vintage” tone mentioned in the description above.You could always click that link in my sig if it’s vintage muff tones you’re after…
EDIT: Never mind. All gone.January 6, 2010 at 9:19 pm #106152KitraeMemberQuote:Thanks for the replies. To be frank, I’m not finding too much love for this version of the Muff. I don’t think this is Fran’s best work.Quote:The tone is in the same family as the version 6 Big Muff, though this is not actually a reissue of that version. It is a bit more muffled (muffier?), and buzzy-fizzy sounding, without the clarity of most of the vintage USA Muffs. Mids are very scooped. The bottom end of the tone differs from vintage USA made Muffs from the 1970s. It does not react as sharply to pinch harmonics as the V3 Muff and does not work well with palm muting.This description is it in a nut shell. I decided to seek out the “vintage” tone mentioned in the description above.
I looked around for various Muff circuits on General Guitar Gadgets etc. I built up their version on a prototype board, I used common as muck 2N3904 transistors and the thing buried the V9. I am most disappointed, I thought EHX has been building these things for so long they must have it down to a fine art by now. Not so.
I dare say it is time to pull out the soldering iron.
I wouldn’t say don’t buy a Muff pedal, but don’t make an eBay purchase, hear it first.
It all depends on what kind of sounds you are looking for out of a Muff and what kind of music you like to play. Honestly, I did not care for the V9 that much when I got it. I was used to Sovtek Muffs and thought they performed much better for what I like to play, but the V9 grew on me over time. Some people love the V9 Muffs and dislike the older ones. Try a vintage V2 or V3 Muff, or a vintage Muff clone if the current one does not suit you and you want more clarity to the tone. Stomp Under Foot makes some decent vintage USA clones.
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