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  • July 21, 2009 at 2:10 pm #78632
    B.Daws
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    I’ve had my Voice Box for awhile now and it’s cool (though not the most usable pedal!). I was looking up info on some of my pedals and came across this question: is the Voice Box true bypass(on the instrument jack)? I don’t think it is but I haven’t verified this anywhere. Really sucks if it isn’t.

    July 22, 2009 at 8:30 pm #99852
    canutility
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    hi!

    the manual says “clean and transparent analog instrument through circuity” –

    so it is surely not true bypass on the instrument path, but remember that this is
    an effectbox focusing on the wet/XLR signal, and you still can USE IT VIA INSERT ON
    A MIXER TO AVOID LOSS OF AUDIO QUALITY!! ( i hope you got a mixer with channel inserts! )

    OR DO YOU HAVE A 2 CHANNEL INPUT ON YOUR AMP/PREAMP/POD etc., TO KEEP AT LEAST ONE CHANNEL “CLEAN”?!

    (but in vocoder mode, for example, I don´t even
    plug the output, since i dont need the dry signal!)

    I am worried about another aspect –

    have you noticed that, in vocoder mode, there is always a certain amount of instrument
    signal, silent but audible, there as you play it, even when you do not “vocode”?
    normally in a vocoder, the signals are fully seperate,- no instrument to hear as long as you don´t
    sing into the mic!

    could i ask you to do me the favour to check if your box does it too, so that I can be sure wheter mine is defect or not? I got no answers on this forum yet about this matter!

    thanks,

    martin

    July 22, 2009 at 8:52 pm #99853
    B.Daws
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    Are saying when you vocode if you aren’t singing you still hear the guitar? Unless I am singing along to my playing I hear nothing. Also are you saying to put the instrument path into an effects loop or something like that? That seems like a good idea. So put my mic into one of the regular channels and then send the FX out to the pedal and back to the mixer and then just run the fx on my guitar channel when I want to use it…something like that?

    July 22, 2009 at 9:01 pm #99855
    julian
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    If my ears can’t tell whether a signal is TB or not, I generally don’t worry about it

    July 22, 2009 at 10:18 pm #99857
    canutility
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    yes, something like that, but i think it won´t work with that normal “aux send/return” – path on the master section of the mixer. –

    supposed you have a channel insert input: connect the guitar-channel insert with the instrument input of the VB,
    and the microphone normally (since the mic-path HAS true bypass) —>

    the result will be: an unaffected guitar channel and a wet signal on the microphone channel,–
    i can only describe it that generally, since i am just about to buy a mixer with inserts ( right because of that little beast), i don´t have one yet.
    BUT THIS SURELY WORKS, THAT IS EXACTELY WHAT INSERTS ARE FOR!! It is like a sideway on a road,– 4 details about connecting —> mixer-manual

    what bothers me is that my box is obviously wrecked. ARE YOU COMPLETELY SURE YOU HEAR NO SIGNAL,
    or did you maybe just don´t notice it (it took me a while to realize!)

    m

    July 22, 2009 at 11:41 pm #99860
    B.Daws
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    If my ears can’t tell whether a signal is TB or not, I generally don’t worry about it

    It’s not the signal, I just like being able for it to pass through with the power off. I have a pretty crazy setup and don’t always like having everything turned on.

    To the other post: I’m 95% sure mine doesn’t pass the signal. I’ll make a vid for you soon to show… Also I kind of feel like the voice box is a wreck as is, most of the stuff is unusable. When I do the harmonies and sing along i can play whatever and it doesn’t sound like it alters the tones at all a lot of the time. I just use it for the vocoder and reverb for now. Your post totally confused me too.

    July 23, 2009 at 11:16 am #99872
    canutility
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    sorry to confuse you, my suggestion was perfectly simple, –> use mixer inserts is all!
    (besides, you wll not find a vocoder with true instrument bypass anywhere, that is just not the way it works)

    besides, i find the box extremely useful, and the harmony-vocals work beautifully! maybe
    you should experiment more with wet/dry amounts,– what is more useful than
    multiharmonic vocals

    martin

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