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  • August 19, 2009 at 10:33 pm #78818
    Ravi Shanka
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    I just got one as a gift from a friend who is moving about, just wondering how much they are worth. It could do with a fix up and its got the usual wear and tear. Dont think I will sell it, just curious.

    August 20, 2009 at 6:18 am #100762
    devnulljp
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    v5 IC muff? They’re hovering around the $100~$150 mark, although you see a lot of crackpipe $250+ asking prices (they usually don’t sell).
    Saw one last week with a BIN of $90. I snagged a EH1322 a few weeks ago for $120 and a 3003 a few months ago for $140 (shipped).

    August 20, 2009 at 1:32 pm #100780
    Ravi Shanka
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    Awesome, thanks very much for that, i guess i got a bargain then!! Its a great pedal so i think i will hold on to it.

    August 22, 2009 at 12:38 am #100839
    Ned Flanders
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    One of the best pedals too IMO, I love mine! I payed about $100 for mine (IIRC) plus $25 for shipping to Australia so I was pleased.

    August 24, 2009 at 10:32 pm #100891
    devnulljp
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    I don’t really think of it as a big muff though — more like an op-amp distortion…more like a Rat maybe?
    Different type of clipping, but I still kinda dig em though (which is why I have three…how’d that happen?).
    Wouldn’t ever say ‘no’ to one.You’ll like it.
    The Jumbo Tone Bender is more like a Muff than the IC Big Muff, albeit lacking a gain stage.

    August 26, 2009 at 8:54 pm #100940
    Kitrae
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    Yeah, it’s not a real transistor Big Muff, but a very cool distortion, which is why I have two of them. About $150 is what I paid for mine as well.

    August 27, 2009 at 11:05 pm #100957
    Ned Flanders
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    Its not a distortion like the metal muff is a distortion because it doesnt chuga chuga palm mute like a distortion. if you cant do this with a dirt pedal its not a distortion IMO, and I couldn’t care less what its got inside. Distortion pedals palm mute well, very well and no big muff (or transistor fuzz for that matter) palm mutes well.

    It is a real big muff, there’s no doubt about it. It sounds as Big Muff as any other two versions of a big muff does.

    Look at the schematic, , its a Big Muff!

    Just cause it uses one 4558 and one 741 doesnt mean its not a big muff. Just cause one big muff uses a 10uF input cap compared to another with a .01uF input cap or 2N5088 transistors compared to BC550C transistors doesnt mean they aren’t big muffs.

    If it looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, its a duck!

    The IC big muff sounds like a big muff therefore it is! What makes it sound like it does is irrelevant.

    August 28, 2009 at 12:09 am #100959
    Kitrae
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    You may be in the minority there :) Everyone has their own opinions, and they will vary depending on your amp, guitar, and what kind of music you like to play, and playing style. I don’t think the V5 or V6 op-amp Muffs sound like a real transistor Muff at all, or even come close to what the transistor versions can do through my rig, therefore I don’t consider them real Muffs. There is a randomness to good transistor Muff that creates magical little unintended nuanaces to your playing when you crank one up loud that just is not there with the op-amp version. Sorry.

    It has characteristics of the Muff tone, obviously. That’s what Howard Davis was going for. I like them, just not in the same class to me, and apparently not many others. That’s why E-H killed them so fast and went back to transistors. Also the reason you see so many op-amp versions being re-sold for 1/3 to 1/2 the price of transistor Muffs from around the same time.

    As far as palm muting with a Muff, you should hear a few in my collection. They handle that task just fine :)

    August 28, 2009 at 11:10 pm #100994
    Ned Flanders
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    My point is they dont palm mute like kerry kings rig or max cavaler’s rig! Its just not gonna happen on a big muff.

    Metal Muff? Definitely, but that’s not a big muff, its a high gain distortion.

    I can get decent palm mutes out of big muffs too but nothing like SLAYER, they just wont do it. and if a pedal is a distortion pedal is should palm mute like SLAYER, that’s my own personal test to decide whats a fuzz and whats a distortion, whether/and how well it palm mutes.

    And that’s also why I consider the big muff a fuzzy distortion, rather than a distortion or a fuzz.

    But anyone wanting to sound similar to SLAYER shouldnt be playing big muffs anyways.

    August 29, 2009 at 7:57 am #101009
    devnulljp
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    But anyone wanting to sound similar to SLAYER shouldnt be playing anyways.

    There, fixed it for you :D

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    August 29, 2009 at 11:53 pm #101024
    Ned Flanders
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    Slayer rock dude, even cobain was a big Slayer fan!

    August 30, 2009 at 1:39 am #101027
    Kitrae
    Member

    Ummm…no comment.

    August 30, 2009 at 4:06 am #101035
    devnulljp
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    I’d rather listen to paint dry…or get a root canal maybe lol.gif
    But that’s what’s so great about something as subjective as music…

    August 30, 2009 at 4:31 am #101038
    Kitrae
    Member

    The root canal would be preferable, but to each his own :)

    August 30, 2009 at 9:29 am #101037
    Ned Flanders
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    See, I cant stand crud like david gilmour, metalica, blues, keith richards, SRV ,van halen and glam metal and other crap like that.
    I like experimental and old school 70’s/80’s brittish/US punk and 90’s grunge etc. And by punk and grunge i dont mean whats beings pushed by record companies.I mean stuff like DK,DRI, Lard, Babes in toyland, Nirvana pre nevermind but including incesticide, Mudhoney, Melvins etc etc blah blah blah.

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