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  • #85450
    zdenek
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    Hi everyone!

    Newb here. I’m interested in buying the Superego+ for voice processing. I understand that I need a preamp and some sort of impedance adapter after the mic, but I wanted to know if the signal tracker circuit in the SE+ would behave fine for voice, given that it has different envelope and acoustics than a guitar.

    I read somewhere that the Superego+ sometimes has problems tracking the signal as the threshold is too high. Is this true? The recommendation was to use a compressor before the pedal. Have you encountered this problem?

    And lastly, have any one you used the Superego+ with voice, or any other type of instrument besides electric guitar/bass?

    Thanks for your input!

    #124242
    gvelasco
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    …I understand that I need a preamp and some sort of impedance adapter after the mic,

    You shouldn’t need a preamp after your mic, but you will most likely need an impedance matcher if your mic is not already a high impedance (Hi-Z) mic. If the mic has a 1/4″ plug on it then it is most likely already Hi-Z, so you don’t need an adapter. If your mic takes a cannon (XLR, “three prong”, Lo-Z) cable, then it is most likely Lo-Z. Some mics are internally switchable. But if your mic is Lo-z, then you will most likely need an impedancing matching adapter. They just have a female Lo-z on one end and a 1/4″ plug on the other.

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    but I wanted to know if the signal tracker circuit in the SE+ would behave fine for voice, given that it has different envelope and acoustics than a guitar.

    I read somewhere that the Superego+ sometimes has problems tracking the signal as the threshold is too high. Is this true?

    I don’t know about this. I don’t have one, so I haven’t had the chance to experiment with it. Still, this would be a volume / signal level issue, not an “acoustics” issue.

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    The recommendation was to use a compressor before the pedal.

    This MIGHT be a solution for guitar, but be very careful applying this to a mic. You’re more likely to get feedback if the levels aren’t just right. I would definitely try it without first. If it turns out you are having problems with the signal, then you can just put a compressor between the mic and the pedal and use that to boost the signal as much as you need. You shouldn’t need a preamp before the compressor. Most comressors already have plenty of boost built into them.

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    And lastly, have any one you used the Superego+ with voice, or any other type of instrument besides electric guitar/bass?

    Here’s a video of someone running their voice through it.

    #124243
    zdenek
    Member

    Hi gvelasco,

    Thank you very much. I was expecting bronze and I got gold—your reply being both enlightening and a money saver!

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    I don’t know about this. I don’t have one, so I haven’t had the chance to experiment with it. Still, this would be a volume / signal level issue, not an “acoustics” issue.

    Point well taken about the signal processing “acoustics”. I’m left wondering, though, if perhaps you have experimented with similar EHX pedals such as HOG2 or POG2? I’ve noticed many people choose either a SE+ with POG2, or a HOG2.

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    Here’s a video of someone running their voice through it.

    https://youtu.be/9wBtxP4Ry88?t=3m17s

    I swear I UTFSE! I see this guy is probably an impedance matching adapter like you said.

    #124244
    EHX STAFF
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    It will be fine with voice!
    It works with anything. I even used a cymbal with the superego+ and it worked great.
    What mic are you planning on using?
    Some mics may need phantom power and in that case a mic preamp would have that that option.
    Some thing like a Sure SM57 with a transformer adapter would work fine.

    #124245
    zdenek
    Member

    Got it!

    Regarding microphones, I have a shitty 1/4″ one, but I’m planning on using a slightly better one for taking to venues. It has the following specs:

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    XLR jack (balanced), Maximum input level: -40dBu@GAIN:max, Input source impedance: 14kΩ

    From what I’m reading, this is “Hi-Z”, so I’m spared of any extra arrangements, right?

    #124246
    EHX STAFF
    Keymaster

    What mic is it?

    #124248
    zdenek
    Member

    Actually, it’s a relatively rare microphone model that came bundled with some Korg products such as the MicroKorg. For what it’s worth, the name is Korg GM-23D. It’s got a male XLR connector, so I’ll still need an XLR/Jack adapter.

    picture for reference:
    https://www.adorama.com/images/300×300/kogm23d.jpg

    #124251
    EHX STAFF
    Keymaster

    You are best to write Korg and get specs. I have no idea what they use or if its a condenser mic?

    #124257
    gvelasco
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    Actually, it’s a relatively rare microphone model that came bundled with some Korg products such as the MicroKorg…

    Those MicroKorgs are pretty cool. They can accept any “standard” XLR lo-Z mic. They do not provide phantom power, so they are not expecting an electret (a.k.a. condenser) microphone. So, you don’t have to worry about powering your mic. Just get yourself something like this:

    J39024000000000-00-500x500.jpg

    #124259
    zdenek
    Member

    I guess it settled then. Thanks guys, this thread has been very rewarding.

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