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March 27, 2009 at 6:42 pm #77972SovtekianMember
I would like to start a topic about Sovtek Mig amps
Im wondering what the first year of production?
The reason why is I have an odd looking Mig 60. The tag on the chassis reads “005 1992” Does anyone have any
ideas here? 5th one produced in ’92? It also has block lettering on the faceplate instead of the russian word in red script.
Everything else is the same as any other Mig 60 except for the faceplate. It has not been modified by anyone so its an original
factory job. (pic is inverted)Ideas??
March 27, 2009 at 6:48 pm #94985The EH ManModeratorFixed your pic. I’ll have to go back thru my catalogs and see when they first showed up. I have a Mig 60 and a Tube Midget that’s still in the box.
March 27, 2009 at 6:55 pm #94987SovtekianMemberThank you Ron for the pic fix! I look forward to hearing what you find out.
I love the way this amp sounds and just ordered some EH EL34’s and plan on
having it gone over and biased. Wish I had a Sovtek cab though, I am looking for a cheap one
around the pawn shops here in Seattle.
All my google searches came up with the red script of the Russian word for
Siberia on the faceplate, and I havent seen to many of these in person so looking forward
to some more input. The block lettering has got me wondering if this is an EARLY VERSION!!!May 5, 2009 at 9:49 am #96355Stoner WizardParticipantHi again:
I’m a “Sovtek-only” player. I discovered them in 2.001, when I first saw an original MiG 60 with its 2 x 12″ cab. I went to shop with my Jazzmaster and two pedals… wow!.
It replaced my old 8080 Valvestate (1st version). MiG 60 lasted for two more years, then, my rehearsal space was completely destroyed by a fire, and most of my gear (except the two Fenders – Jazzmaster and Strat which now are “heavy relic fireburnt”.
So I had to replace… and then I found the MiG 100.
Today, MiG 100 is my only amp… I like it so much that I have three MiG 100 heads for playing with my different three bands… no matter style or music, MiG’s are my amp of choice.
What I like most of them is they’re sturdy, reliable and very affordable. Despite some cheap plastic little parts (switches and jacks), they sound really good! – unless you like single channel amps and you can handle with the absence of reverb and effects loop.
Also and very important: They dig almost all pedals you can plug through, especially EH pedals. No matter which model, but there’s no bad-sounding EH pedal throught a Sovtek, at least I’ve not found it yet.
The only pedal which did not fit was the RAT 2, and of course the “ACME brand cheap plastic pedals” still sound like crap but it’s a kind of bizarre full-room crap sound.
MiG 60 sounded more raw, very “late-60’s” sound, I mean (psychedelic, acid-rock…) while MiG 100 is very “early-70’s”, cleaner sound and more “room”.
Here are my present amp sets:
* Sovtek MiG 100 H + Sovtek 4 x 12″ cab (stock Eminence speakers).
* Sovtek MiG 100 (regular) modded to 50 w + Sovtek 4 x 12″ cab (stock Eminence speakers).
* Sovtek MiG 100 (regular) + Framus 2 x 12″ cab (Vintage 30 Celestion speakers).Regards from Spain.
Nacho
May 5, 2009 at 4:05 pm #96374julianModeratorThe band Chavez apparently used cranked Mig 50s plus cheap distortion pedals to get their guitar sound.
May 5, 2009 at 6:45 pm #96390Stoner WizardParticipantHello:
Even these kind of “ACME pedals” may shine (considering their limits) plugged through a Sovtek, just like cheap guitars. I think this is possible due Sovtek amps are one of the most dynamic in their price range, they respond quite well to player’s pick or finger-style technique. Also, the more watts, the more clean sound and headroom they give.
This is what I like about a 100-watt tube amp. 50-watt is OK in terms of output volume and gain (even 30 watts – think on a Class A VOX AC30), even less, but the “clean ceiling” is too low. Once you get above certain level, most low-watt tube amps tend to saturate a lot, OK if you want to crank but just the way for most “ACME pedals” to sound really awful.
Sovtek’s lower watt models (MiG 60, 50 and 30) can sound more “tamed” (compared with a Fender Bassman, for example as many other tube amps without master volume) due the Master/Volume section which allows you to tailor the amount of preamp gain (“Volume” – which is a bit misleading title) and then, set to a desired output level (“Master”).
For my purposes, “ACME pedals” are only worthy for certain experiments with bizarre and lo-fi sounds in studio recordings, but definitely not for everyday rehearsal and live playing. And of course, If you use ACME pedals, plug them at least through head + cab instead of using a combo – they’ll sound more open and less “horrible”.
To avoid being misunderstood with the term, I describe what is an “ACME pedal” in my opinion: I refer to any kind of cheap built and/or poor-quality effects (noisy pedal, unusable ranges, “tone destroyer”, etc etc.), no matter how they’re made or the manufacturer (all of them have their “black sheep of the family”). I think everybody has lots of examples in mind.
Regards from Spain.
Nacho
May 25, 2009 at 5:29 pm #97005seantwfMemberHey guys, I just bought a MIG-60 to play alongside my Rockerverb 100. I’m running both amps through my Furman power board with: digitech livewire chorus and delay, a TS-9, a crybaby and EHX’s 2880. I still want to add a fuzzface and maybe another delay… I’d guess you guys would suggest a DMM. I’m in love with the MIG. No frills warm sound with great headroom for a 60 watt amp. It is rather noisy when you just let it idle, but that’s just more reason to keep playing, eh?
It complements the Orange beautifully. I play in a trio and i really wanted more guitar sound, like you hear in most four piece rock groups. It works perfectly to use the Rockerverb as a “lead” amp. It has that dirty channel that the MIG just can’t really touch without a few boosts and some compression, and its actually nice to hit that channel switch and have the Orange screaming and the MIG chugging along behind in perfect synchrony. HUGE sound, without the blistering rectifiers. Throw in the 2880 and it’s almost too much power. I’ve been trying to get some heavily effected sound out of my rig while staying rooted in guitar work rather than moving toward the shoe-gazer side of things, but its becoming harder and harder…
I do have some actual questions, and i haven’t checked anywhere else on the site so pardon me if they’re newb things…
First, does anyone know where i can get a Sovtek nameplate for my MIG? I googled and ebayed and can’t seem to come up with anything.
Secondly, i was wondering if anyone knew how to rig an A/B switch for my amps. Its nice to have the MIG backing up the Rockerverb most of the time, but there are times that i’ll need it to be quiet (or as quiet as can be). I was looking into some Keeley “loopers” and i think i could get a few of those to do the trick, but i’m worried about the safety of my full tube babies. Would a signal-less 1/4″ plugged into an amp that’s not on standby cause issues? I’d think not, but i’d rather not make a costly mistake. I was thinking i’d have a looper on the final 1/4″ out to each of the amps and have one of the looper’s channels go to the amp, and the other disconnected. So when i hit the looper it basically cuts the signal to the respective amp. Sounds like it could be bad for my amp’s health. Help?
May 25, 2009 at 8:04 pm #97007The EH ManModeratorYours may not be a “Sovtek” Mig amp. The Migs were made by another company in Russia and were labeled for Sovtek. I believe the Mig is still in production in Russia.
May 25, 2009 at 9:05 pm #97009seantwfMemberHow could i verify that?
I think i figured out the A/B switch too. Homebrew electronics’ Bychn Swychn ABC. Use the A/B for the MIG on/off and the C for the Rockerverb, assuming it’s not harmful to the amps.
And is there some reason that the 2880 isn’t on proguitarshop.com? Under the loop section there’s the DMM but not the 2880… and its so much more powerful and hi-fi than the BOSS and Digi-crap. I’d be pissed if i ordered an RC-50 from what i thought was a cutting-edge shop and found the 2880 shortly thereafter.
May 26, 2009 at 5:11 pm #97017electro-melxModeratorQuote:And is there some reason that the 2880 isn’t on proguitarshop.com? Under the loop section there’s the DMM but not the 2880… and its so much more powerful and hi-fi than the BOSS and Digi-crap. I’d be pissed if i ordered an RC-50 from what i thought was a cutting-edge shop and found the 2880 shortly thereafter.You’d have to ask PGS why they choose not to stock it, they are the only people who will know the answer to that one!
June 1, 2009 at 9:16 pm #97234Stoner WizardParticipantHello people!
Now, I’m updating my MiG 100 H. I had another plans but I noticed last day after a rehearsal break that two valve sockets made the tubes turn to “burnin’ red”. So I stopped to avoid any damage and took the head to my amp tech.
Now it’s time to change and make the beast growl more than before. I’m gonna use a quartet of KT66 tubes for power amp section (instead of “standard” 6L6 type), and keeping the usual 12AX7 triad for preamp section.
With this update, I’ll keep the original “Sovtek” mood but with more punch and bottom. What I like a lot of MiG 100H amp is its dynamic playing response – if you play softly, it whispers but when you hit the strings, it sounds really heavy)
For the next days, I hope I’ll get the tubes and begin the process… the MiG 100H will be back soon at full throttle!
Regards from Spain
Ignacio
June 28, 2009 at 10:27 am #98537guitarnutMemberI was wondering what happened to the Sovtek AMP line and why it was no longer being carried by EHX.
Was it the usual marketing reasons, if it doesn’t sell drop it from the roster?I was impressed with the look of the russian pine cabs.
Years ago I did end up getting a couple of empty black tolex Sovtek cabs and loaded each with a greenback so I can move them apart if I wanted to. The only thing I didn’t like was their non std size. I wouldn’t mind a Mig 100.July 1, 2009 at 7:03 am #98691Stoner WizardParticipantQuote:Hello people!Now, I’m updating my MiG 100 H. I had another plans but I noticed last day after a rehearsal break that two valve sockets made the tubes turn to “burnin’ red”. So I stopped to avoid any damage and took the head to my amp tech.
Now it’s time to change and make the beast growl more than before. I’m gonna use a quartet of KT66 tubes for power amp section (instead of “standard” 6L6 type), and keeping the usual 12AX7 triad for preamp section.
With this update, I’ll keep the original “Sovtek” mood but with more punch and bottom. What I like a lot of MiG 100H amp is its dynamic playing response – if you play softly, it whispers but when you hit the strings, it sounds really heavy)
For the next days, I hope I’ll get the tubes and begin the process… the MiG 100H will be back soon at full throttle!
Regards from Spain
Ignacio
I’ve got the amp ready to use. Finally the set is: Two KT-66 type JJ Electronics for power amp and three 12AX7/ECC83 type also from JJ Electronics.
The reason for using only two power amps instead the full-quartet is that there was not space enough bewteen valve sockets. KT-66’s are too big (huge diameter) and that would imply that tubes are touching with each other. So, the two were put on outer sockets leaving middle ones empty. The remainder of the quartet is for replacement.
The preamp stage tubes are not equal 12AX7: One is a “balanced” one, the second is a V1-type and the third is a standard value 12AX7. Each one has different gain values, so as you give more drive to preamp they crunch harder, but clean when set at low values.
This has “turned” (theoretically) the amp from 100 watt to 50 watt, but the character of MiG 100 H remains intact. I mean, the amp can be cranked a bit more (which you can do with a lower watt amp) but keeps the clean and huge headroom of a 100 watt tube amp. Of course, with the original 4 x 12″ Sovtek cab.
The effects, as played through the amp have a more “ballsy” sound.
I’ve changed a bit my EQ setting: While before I used to put Presence and EQ knobs to noon (5), now I’ve set Presence and Middle knobs to 6, keeping the rest intact.
I plug guitar to High input with Master set to 3, and Volume (preamp drive) to 2-2’5 depending of the guitar I use.
Long live to MiG 100!
I still have two more MiG 100 heads (regular model) to be “updated”. Once I make the changes, I’ll write my next chapter for MiG 100 chronicles.
Regards
Nacho
October 28, 2010 at 11:45 pm #112285ScienceFrictionMemberHi, new here, hope it’s okay to bring up an old topic. I’m a Sovtek Mig 30 owner myself, love it! I play it with a matching 4×12 Sovtek cab which also sounds very good. Tony Bruno designed the Mig 50 (so in essence the Mig 30) right? I was thinking about emailing him about the amp and trying to get more info about it in general. All I know is it sounds great. I bridge the channels myself, definitely turns it from a clean machine into a growler.
November 6, 2010 at 6:54 pm #112431ScienceFrictionMemberNo one? I guess there isn’t much interested here about Sovtek amps.
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