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  • December 27, 2008 at 11:13 pm #89736
    MING
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    I got the Small Clone a few months ago. I was origonally going to get a boss chorus pedal but when i played the small clone, it just sounded so much better.

    Smart move. I bought a CH-1 years ago. While, at the time, nice and versatile. Now that I have the Small Clone, the CH-1, sounds just ok.

    December 28, 2008 at 1:37 pm #89751
    BlueSteel
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    I know that John Frusciante uses one of the Boss chorus pedals, but does anyone know if he ever used the Small Clone?

    January 15, 2009 at 4:21 am #90762
    Costch
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    I got the Small Clone a few months ago. I was origonally going to get a boss chorus pedal but when i played the small clone, it just sounded so much better.

    I think you’ll find that to be true of any EHX/Boss comparison. Analog just sounds better than digital (this is a fact). That is also the reason why I will never (ever) purchase a single Boss product, when I could get a comparable (somewhat) EHX for the same or lower price.

    January 15, 2009 at 4:25 am #90763
    Costch
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    I know that John Frusciante uses one of the Boss chorus pedals, but does anyone know if he ever used the Small Clone?

    I don’t think that he did.

    January 15, 2009 at 4:28 am #90764
    Costch
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    I got a Small Clone for $40 at a used music shop that replaced a $300 piece of “boutique” junk. It’s from the mid to late 90’s I believe, but it was plenty used. I had to use a white marker to draw a line back on the knob, it was totally worn away. It does a warbly, vibrato sound and a simple chorus sound better than the expensive pedal. I play bass and I like that it seems to add a little high-end chime to the sound when the knob is at about ten o’clock and the depth knob is up. When I run the SC into a Boss RE-20 Space Echo I can still hear the chime cutting through the echo/reverb; very cool!

    Boutique pedals are overrated and overpriced. I see no point in purchasing them if you can get a better EHX effect for about a third of the price. Boutique=Evil (in most cases at least). Sorry I’m clogging this thread with all of my useless ramblings, this will be the last one.

    January 15, 2009 at 5:06 am #90772
    julian
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    Analog isn’t always necessarily better than digital. I’ve heard digital delays sound better than analog delays, and digital synths sound incredibly fat. It depends on design and usage I think. There are also some things you simply can’t do in the analog world in real time. Which is where digital comes in handy.

    I don’t really think boutique = evil. Small business is good, and things that boutique builders do makes its way into the mass produced world. People started making tricked out muffs in small cases and selling them for 200 dollars. Now EHX has three tricked out muffs in small cases and sells them for 75-90 dollars.

    Beyond that there are boutique reissues of pedals that will never get reissued because the company that originally put them out is long gone.

    And there are also guys that are huge innovators out there. I’ve got two “boutique” pedals that are totally off the wall. Though I don’t know. . . would you call SubDecay and CopilotFX to be boutique? Or just non mass produced?

    If the qualifier of boutique is that it has to be overpriced, then I guess I’d count those guys as not boutique, because there stuff doesn’t cost much more than what I’d expect mass produced version of the same stuff to cost.

    January 15, 2009 at 11:44 am #90776
    BlueSteel
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    I got the Small Clone a few months ago. I was origonally going to get a boss chorus pedal but when i played the small clone, it just sounded so much better.

    I think you’ll find that to be true of any EHX/Boss comparison. Analog just sounds better than digital (this is a fact). That is also the reason why I will never (ever) purchase a single Boss product, when I could get a comparable (somewhat) EHX for the same or lower price.

    Yea, i probably won’t buy any more boss pedals. Except maybe their chromatic tuner pedal. Or the DS-2 because Frusciante uses it.

    January 15, 2009 at 2:39 pm #90783
    Costch
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    Yea, i probably won’t buy any more boss pedals. Except maybe their chromatic tuner pedal. Or the DS-2 because Frusciante uses it.

    Even Boss’ pedals tuner has been bested by korg, because the pitchblack has true bybass, unlike the boss. The DS-2 seems pretty cool, by I just use my amp for distortion or overdrive. The only gain based pedals that I buy are Fuzz, that’s where the Big Muff come in. Have you seen Boss’ fuzz? That thing looks like a joke!

    January 15, 2009 at 3:10 pm #90787
    electro-melx
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    I’m not sure about the Pitchblack, I have a Korg DT-10 tuner and I think I prefer it, the disply is nicer imo and I actually find the buffered bypass useful….I run it between wah and fuzz because my wah doesn’t like being directly in front of fuzz usually….but yeah, I think I prefer Korg’s tuners to Boss’s.

    I like my HM-2 a lot though….other Boss pedals I’ve had and liked were the CS-2 compressor (the old 2 knob one) and the OS-2 overdrive/distortion, personally I like Boss dirt pedals, I’m not usually so keen on their modulation offerings though.

    January 15, 2009 at 3:31 pm #90790
    Kevin Demuth
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    I think you’ll find that to be true of any EHX/Boss comparison. Analog just sounds better than digital (this is a fact). That is also the reason why I will never (ever) purchase a single Boss product, when I could get a comparable (somewhat) EHX for the same or lower price.

    sorry, but analogue being better than digital is an opinion not a fact; some people will agree, some people will not.

    also, not all Boss pedals are digital, just as not all EHX pedals are analogue.

    i know this is an EHX forum but i have no problem admitting that there are several Boss pedals which I like more than their EHX counterparts.
    by saying you’ll never buy a Boss product you are ruling out many great/classic pedals for no real reason.

    January 15, 2009 at 4:18 pm #90797
    electro-melx
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    i know this is an EHX forum but i have no problem admitting that there are several Boss pedals which I like more than their EHX counterparts.
    by saying you’ll never buy a Boss product you are ruling out many great/classic pedals for no real reason.

    I gotta agree, I think Boss (and others, MXR, Ibanez, DOD, etc) have made some great pedals over the years and I think the good thing is in most cases they are different enough to offer a genuine choice to people. (not just price and what the casing looks like)

    ….anyway no one has ever made a pedal as great as the DOD punkifier, that pedal is a total car crash and I love it!! :D (I know this is an extreme minority view on any forum!!!)

    January 15, 2009 at 4:55 pm #90807
    petejt
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    I know that John Frusciante uses one of the Boss chorus pedals, but does anyone know if he ever used the Small Clone?

    He used the Boss CE-1 Chorus Ensemble, which is analogue, and probably the best chorus Boss has ever made (forget the CE-5….). And also, one of the best Choruses ever made.

    January 15, 2009 at 7:16 pm #90820
    julian
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    Yep. . . Boss makes an awesome chorus pedal and then it gets discontinued and they never bring it back. Silly Boss.

    boss_ce.jpg

    January 15, 2009 at 8:05 pm #90824
    electro-melx
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    Is the CE-2 no good? I always figured that was similar in sound to the CE-1 but in a compact form…or am I totally wrong about that? (I’ve never actually used either!)

    January 15, 2009 at 8:15 pm #90826
    Kevin Demuth
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    Is the CE-2 no good? I always figured that was similar in sound to the CE-1 but in a compact form…or am I totally wrong about that? (I’ve never actually used either!)

    i’ve not used either… either, but a lot of people like the CE-2. just as a lot of people like some other Boss chorus pedals… and pedals from other brands…
    and there are also lots of people that don’t like the Small Clone or Polychorus.

    for us guitarists/effects-users it’s just great that there are so many choices out there.

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