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June 1, 2020 at 9:56 am #86292BleedingFingertipsParticipant
Hi there,
I bought the Silencer and was inteded to hook it up using the 4 cable method like the guy in this video:
1. Guitar -> Silencer INPUT
2. Silencer SEND -> Amp In
3. Amp FX Send -> Silencer RETURN
4. Silencer OUTPUT -> Amp FX returnThis way the input receives the clean guitar signal and the Silencer’s loop gates dirt pedals AND preamp.
The gating itself works fine. [strong]The issue I have is that the Silencer produces crackling/clipping noises when hooked up this way[/strong]. The crackling more or less disappears when I roll back the volume and gain on my amp’s dirty channel a bit:
Set volume and gain to 3 o’clock – it’s crackling/clipping
Roll them back to 2 o’clock and downwards – it’s clear and neatTo eliminate other causes, I did the following:
A. Run some effects through the amp’s FX Loop – no issues
B. Run the Silencer straight into the amp (using INPUT and OUTPUT) – no issues
C. Used the FX loop of the Silencer for stompboxes in front of the amp, i.e. Guitar -> Silencer INPUT / Silencer SEND -> stompboxes -> Silencer RETURN / Silencer OUTPUT -> amp – also no issues
D. Checked all my cables for loose connections one by one – no issuesSo it seems that the pedal’s loop can’t handle my preamp’s gain/volume properly. I’m not sure whether the Silencer is simply designed this way or it’s a defect. But again, many guys used the Silencer (or Boss Ns-2, or TC Sentry) this way with no issues.
June 1, 2020 at 5:13 pm #126131Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorJust based on your description, it does sound like the Silencer is running out of headroom in your setup. Are you powering the Silencer with a battery or an external power supply? If powered from a battery, the battery could be running out of juice.
June 1, 2020 at 6:28 pm #126132BleedingFingertipsParticipantQuote:Just based on your description, it does sound like the Silencer is running out of headroom in your setup. Are you powering the Silencer with a battery or an external power supply? If powered from a battery, the battery could be running out of juice.Thanks fpr your reply.
I first tested it with the battery that came with the pedal – my bad. But then used a 9V 500mA power supply (it was my last hope haha) – same problem.
June 2, 2020 at 4:16 pm #126134Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorThanks for checking with a power supply. Sorry to hear the Silencer is still clipping.
What amp are you using?
June 2, 2020 at 4:39 pm #126135BleedingFingertipsParticipantQuote:Thanks for checking with a power supply. Sorry to hear the Silencer is still clipping.What amp are you using?
It’s a Randall Diavlo RD40C, 40w all tube combo app with a serial FX loop. It has 4 preamp tubes of the type 12AX7 and lots of gain. I think it’s geared to modern high gain metal.
As I said, clipping/crackling appears at appr. 3 o’clock (up to the maximum) of gain and volume on the dirty channel. At lower volume/gain settings, it goes away but I’m afraid I’m not entirely satisfied with this.
BTW, I returned it to Thomann in Germany. They’ll send me a replacement in a few days so I can find out if it’s some kind of mismatch between my amp and the pedal.
I’ll post an update here.
June 2, 2020 at 5:26 pm #126136Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorThanks, looking forward to the results.
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