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  • #107974
    bluehevy75
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    SUCCESS!!!!
    Last night we played around with pre-amps, compression, mixers, pickups vs. mics etc…some stuff sounded good but nothing triggered the distortion.
    What finally did it was running a Flange and (or) the Q-Tron before the distortion.–Thanks Julian. If anyone has any ideas why these kind of effect triggered the fuzz I’d love to hear it so we can try other stuff.
    We will need to some work to keep the feedback from going crazy but it was difinetly working, usable, and sounding exactly like we hoped it would.
    Thanks for all or your time peeps.

    A square wave is a signal full of harmonics, a sine wave is one devoid of harmonics.

    Distortion adds harmonics, making a signal closer to a square wave. (additive synthesis)

    Filtering removes harmonics, making a signal closer to a sine wave. (subtractive synthesis)

    A saxophone is already very close to a square wave, so I didn’t think distortion would effect it very much. So if you make it less like a square wave, the distortion will have a better effect on it.

    Or wait…maybe I need the opposite of a square wave shaper….maybe I need a filter…is there something like that….just a simple filter…no envelope no flange etc…???

    #110886
    Ahoernchen
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    This is also my first posting here.:-)
    I want to add that a microphone has a different impedance than a guitar. A lo to high impedance transformer (I use a Audix T50k) must be used. This is not only because of the level it’s also because of the sound.
    My expiriences have shown that a microphone + effects is not useful in loud conditions because of feedback. I’m using a transducer. The same construction wich was used 30 years ago. You see sometimes saxes of this periode with the transducer mount on the neck.
    Good news is that my transducer matches the impedance of guitar effects. Bad news is, that it is really hard to find one of the old transducers. The transducers produced today are crap or way to expensive.
    Would be fun if EHX or other companys would discover sax players (pickup systems)!
    By the way..the QTron+ was the only auto-wah that worked for me ;-).

    have fun

    #110957
    bluehevy75
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    This is also my first posting here.:-)
    I want to add that a microphone has a different impedance than a guitar. A lo to high impedance transformer (I use a Audix T50k) must be used. This is not only because of the level it’s also because of the sound.
    My expiriences have shown that a microphone + effects is not useful in loud conditions because of feedback. I’m using a transducer. The same construction wich was used 30 years ago. You see sometimes saxes of this periode with the transducer mount on the neck.
    Good news is that my transducer matches the impedance of guitar effects. Bad news is, that it is really hard to find one of the old transducers. The transducers produced today are crap or way to expensive.
    Would be fun if EHX or other companys would discover sax players (pickup systems)!
    By the way..the QTron+ was the only auto-wah that worked for me ;-).

    have fun

    Thanks for the reply. We also are using what I think are transducers. We have been using telex brand: http://www.intercomheadsets.com/category.php?cid=56. I don’t remember what value we are using but we drilled a hole in the mouthpiece and shove it right in. It works much better than a mic. What transducer do you use?

    #111075
    Ahoernchen
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    That’s interesting ! :-)
    My transducer looks similar. It is an RFT brand (east german production) 1kOhm transducer but is connected to the neck. It’s got also a transformer with a volume knob. The position of the transducer at the neck depends on instrument (as or ts).
    I try to post some photos

    #111076
    Ahoernchen
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    the neck

    (A cheap one from china.)

    #111077
    Ahoernchen
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    also the neck (without transducer)

    #111078
    Ahoernchen
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    the transducer

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