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October 2, 2010 at 1:50 am #111754C.J.Participant
Hey guys.
Got my Moog EP-2 pedal today to try out the whammy function, and alas, it is behaving just like MarkC described the boss pedal. when i click on the RT on my whammy preset, it drops the pitch slightly flat. then when i toe-down toe-up, it is the right pitch. but it always starts slightly flat. that is totally unusable.
can anyone help with this problem?
i avoided the roland pedal and got the Moog based on this thread. i’d love for it to work!
October 12, 2010 at 8:55 pm #111929C.J.ParticipantDiscovered the key.
this was only occurring when I had the expression pedal plugged in whilst setting up a preset.
to avoid trouble, find a setting you like while using the expression pedal, and then UNPLUG THE EXPRESSION PEDAL before saving your preset.
mine now works flawlessly.
(although I had expected it to go up/down a full octave — it just has a range of +/- 10 half-steps…..)
October 14, 2010 at 1:07 pm #111966The Ghost of Sim TutMemberYou’re getting closer. There’s an output knob, turn it all the way one way or the other (Sorry, I’m not in front of it right now). You can dive 2 full octaves either way so keep trying.
October 17, 2010 at 10:50 pm #112017bigriggParticipantHello, after reading this thread I am wondering if it’s possible to still use the Roland etc vs. the Moog if you simply make the setting with the expression pedal unplugged? Will this fix the slight detune problem all have mentioned? I have read many bad reviews on the Moog pedal and it’s “cheaper” build design so I may want to avoid this pedal if possible, however it it’s the only one that seems to function properly with the RING THING then I may have to purchase the Moog.
Any suggestions on other Expression pedals that will or do work for you and the RING THING.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much.October 18, 2010 at 4:59 pm #112030The Ghost of Sim TutMemberAll these questions have been discussed (mostly by me) throughout the thread. Some work, some don’t, and some work in theory but not actually. So if you like the Roland pedal or own it already, try it. It is supoosed to work with the Ring Thing. It didn’t for me. The Moog EP2 is heavier and stays in place better. There was an early model, I guess EP1, that was cheaper and less reputable but I don’t know. But this pedal works with the RT and happens to be a lower price. I will say though that if you’re unsure either way, why spend double on the Roland/Boss to find out?
All I did was follow the instructions that are here on the site. If an exp pedal doesn’t work with these instructions, in this order, then it doesn’t work, and get something else.
1. Connect the Ring Thing as described in Basic Amplifier Connection Setup.
2. Press the BYPASS footswitch so the STATUS LED is on
3. Press the MODE knob so that ALL LEDs are lit: Pitch-Shift.
4. Turn the following knobs to 50% or 12 o’clock: WAVE and FINE/DEPTH.
5. Turn the BLEND and COARSE knobs fully clockwise.
6. Turn the FILTER/RATE knob fully counter-clockwise, internal modulation will be
off.
7. If an expression pedal is plugged in set it to the toe down position.8. To change the Pitch Shift frequency, turn the FINE and/or COARSE knobs. The
COARSE knob has a range of +/- 2 octaves set in discrete steps. Use the FINE
knob to access tunings in between these discrete steps.Using an Expression Pedal — Plug an expression pedal into the EXP ” Jack to
control the Pitch Shift amount. The expression pedal’s pitch shift range is set by the
COARSE knob. The toe down position will be the current setting of the COARSE knob,
the toe up position is no pitch shift, though you will still hear the pitch shift’s
modulation.October 18, 2010 at 10:49 pm #112032bigriggParticipantI appreciate the reply and efforts. Thanks very much. If I notice anything different with my choice/results, then I will post.
Thanks again.June 3, 2013 at 7:55 pm #119134buddymchaganParticipantI am selling my EHX Wiggler pedal, and a vintage Ibanez CS-9 chorus, and I have been looking at getting the ring thing, but wasn’t sure. Your review has convinced me. I am excited about the vibe and chorus type stuff, and looked forward to having baritone and detuned guitar presets as well, but I just recently got a Kaossilator, and had no clue that the two were compatible. I don’t fully understand how the tow interact from your description, but it doesn’t matter. The possibilities are more than enough to be excited about. Thanks for the great review.
June 13, 2013 at 7:00 pm #119167buddymchaganParticipantQuote:I treated myself to a Ring Thing, hoping that it would sound as awesome as it looks on paper while freeing up pedal board space, which I try to keep to a small footprint. I had a Frequency Analyzer, Micro Pog, and Dano Tuna Melt trem that could theoretically be replaced with this one pedal, while giving me expression capabilities that really help a guitar player, well, express himself.I’m not one for hyperbole, but the Ring Thing is the greatest thing to happen since Jesus and the Beatles mended hurt feelings and got together to defeat Hitler, who was riding on Godzilla’s back.
Here’s why:
Pitch shift is way cool and polyphonic, which means that whole chords are moving with the pitch bend. I never messed with a Digitech Whammy so much, but my impression was that it did not allow this, so I guess it was monophonic or just sucked. The RT replaced my micropog, as it was used mostly to add octave up or octave down after fuzz for solos, and to stand out in a 3-guitar band. Since the RT doesn’t allow you to put an octave up and octave down at the same time, I can’t get that organ-esque tone like the POG series does. Meh, I have a keyboard. Regardless, the actual tracking on the RT is WAY better than the MP. The octave down is so full and natural that I’m surprised they’re from the same manufacturer. Never mind two octaves down, which is pratically subsonic and had dogs in my neighborhood humping other, smaller dogs to satisfy the feelings caused by such a low rumble. Octave up is good too, as good as it should be. MicroPog, thanks but you’re gone.
Using the Boss EV-5 exp pedal works perfectly (EDIT: No it doesn’t. Read on). What did not work were the Behringer FCV 100 and the Yamaha FC-7 keyboard expr pedals, FYI. If I do a full octave dive in either direction, it doesn’t really do a chromatic scale, but if I down tune only a 5th, for example, it pitches chromatically (I guess; kinda like varispeed) from the root note down to the fifth, and this setting lets me get really good My Bloody Valentine type “melting”, and also just good harmony for single notes or full chords, as well as good chorus with the mild detune.
Ring Mod tone is really good. Having owned the FA, the thing I liked best was the hugeness of the analog circuit giving bell like tone. Well I am surprised that the Ring Thing does an admirable job of capturing that feeling digitally. Regardless of minor tone differences, the RT is way more musical. It sounds good on chords and has the great feature of tuning to any note with your foot. You can play a riff, switch to a new position and retune instantly, then tune back when you switch your hands back. Along with that, you can actually hold the tune button down continuously, so its tuning with each new note you hit, which adds just a little life and a cool momentary flam/flange type thing. Cool. And I get a good Tremolo in this mode. Tuna Melt, I like you but let’s just be friends. You are now part of my wife’s keyboard setup.
Upper Band and Lower Band modes are just simplifed ring mod types and both sound great. Frequency Analyzer, you’ll be missed. We had some fun times, please know that you helped me learn something about myself.
Now here’s the part that is making me gush over this pedal: External oscillation control. I’ve never worked with such a feature and wondered what I would try first. Well, I used my Korg Kaossilator, and it has totally transformed what I am capable of producing with my guitar. If you’re not familiar with the Kaossilator, look it up on youtube because they’re totally fun. So I put that in the external mod input and started messing around. Good Lord almighty. In Ring Mod mode I would set the Kaossilator to some melodic sounds: violin, synth bass, piano, voices. Then I would play guitar and use my bare feet to run across the screen and it was like I was tuning the ring mod. I can set scales on the Korg so a Lydian, Phrigian, Ionian, etc., they would all alter what was coming out of my fingers. Magic! So many filters and robot sounds in that thing. Then this was cool: I would put a drum loop in the Korg and as I was playing, the guitar would pulse along with the beat. If I stopped playing guitar, the drum beat disappears. I was doing start/stop riffing ala Helmet all alone.
Even more rocking (and cuter), I have my 5 year old son and 3 year old daughter, who already love the Kaossilator, playing guitar with me. They’re both surprisingly intuitive when it comes to all things Rock, and its fun to include them, usefully, in my music, instead of just locking them in cages so I can play alone.
So I know this was long but it really barely touches what I have seen so far in my 2 weeks with this thing. I am now down to a simple board: Fuzzhugger Phantom Octave>Fuzzhugger ABsynth>Q-Tron+>Boss TU2>Boss DD5>Ring Thing>Memory Man with Hazarai. That’s it. I will be getting a Looperlative LP2 when it comes out but besides that, I think my pilgrimage and search for tools is done! Now I can actually work on music instead of on ebay.
I recently got a ring thing, partly because of your great review; it sounded like everything I wanted out of the pedal. It is great, but I had a question or two. First, with the kaossilator plugged into the mod input, did you have volume issues? I plug it in, and turn the kaossilator up full and can just barely here the effect. If I hit my distortion it comes through loud enough, but I want to mess around with my clean guitar signal as well though. If you have any pointers/settings that work especially well, I would greatly appreciate it. Secondly, I know that this is an issue across the board with peoples reviews of the pedal, but just so I know if my Mission expression pedal is compatible or not, or if I’m just not setting things up correctly: for the expression pedals you tried that didn’t work well, did they do anything to the signal, or nothing.
December 20, 2016 at 5:50 pm #122371KingoMemberNow here’s the part that is making me gush over this pedal: External oscillation control. I’ve never worked with such a feature and wondered what I would try first. Well, I used my Korg Kaossilator, and it has totally transformed what I am capable of producing with my guitar. If you’re not familiar with the Kaossilator, look it up on youtube because they’re totally fun. So I put that in the external mod input and started messing around. Good Lord almighty. In Ring Mod mode I would set the Kaossilator to some melodic sounds: violin, synth bass, piano, voices. Then I would play guitar and use my bare feet to run across the screen and it was like I was tuning the ring mod. I can set scales on the Korg so a Lydian, Phrigian, Ionian, etc., they would all alter what was coming out of my fingers. Magic! So many filters and robot sounds in that thing. Then this was cool: I would put a drum loop in the Korg and as I was playing, the guitar would pulse along with the beat. If I stopped playing guitar, the drum beat disappears. I was doing start/stop riffing ala Helmet all alone.
Even more rocking (and cuter), I have my 5 year old son and 3 year old daughter, who already love the Kaossilator, playing guitar with me. They’re both surprisingly intuitive when it comes to all things Rock, and its fun to include them, usefully, in my music, instead of just locking them in cages so I can play alone.
So I know this was long but it really barely touches what I have seen so far in my 2 weeks with this thing. I am now down to a simple board: Fuzzhugger Phantom Octave>Fuzzhugger ABsynth>Q-Tron+>Boss TU2>Boss DD5>Ring Thing>Memory Man with Hazarai. That’s it. I will be getting a Looperlative LP2 when it comes out but besides that, I think my pilgrimage and search for tools is done! Now I can actually work on music instead of on ebay.[/quote]
Could you explain better? I tried something like that but could not get anything out of it, could you share the knobs setting?
By the way, your interesting and funny review sold me this pedal, it really is awesome as you said! -
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