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  • #78171
    devnulljp
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    Can anyone school me on the different versions of the big box Q-tron?
    When did the switch from rounded knobs with pointer (like the pic below) to the modern flat round knobs happen?
    Any differences inside or in sound? Reliability?

    ehqtron0503.jpg

    #96310
    Fender&EHX4ever
    Moderator

    There are these:

    Q-tron
    Q-tron Plus
    XO Q-tron
    XO Q-tron Plus

    I’m pretty sure the circuits are different between these. But I don’t think that the knob types indicate any circuit difference. EHX has always interchanged these knobs over the years, even back in the Seventies and early Eighties.

    #96319
    devnulljp
    Participant

    Thanks for the info. I’ve found a few Q-trons and the only difference I can see is the knobs. Just wondering how many iterations of the plain vanilla Q-tron there is and if there are significant differences btwn them.

    How’s the old Dr Q ? Isn’t that a Q-tron with a fixed depth?

    EDIT: Thanks for the info. Pulled the trigger on one.

    #96320
    electro-melx
    Moderator

    yeah the knobs don’t mean anything….the round ones aren’t ‘modern’ my DRM16 had round knobs and that was late 70’s vintage …. and most (if not all) of the first RI’s had pointers for a while before they started sticking to the round ones again. …. so they aren’t a good indicator of anything unfortunatly apart from it probably wasn’t made in the last 6 years or so, but that’s about it.

    #96739
    devnulljp
    Participant

    Got my Q-Tron. Quick questions…
    It’s a RI, looks to be true bypass. Is that stock?

    th_Q-Tron-04.jpg

    There’s a screw on the backplate that doesn’t connect to anything. Am I missing a ground connection or is that just something that’s used on another pedal with the same enclosure like a DMM or EM?

    th_Q-Tron-03.jpgth_Q-Tron-02.jpg

    #96744
    John J
    Member

    The screw is nothing to worry about, it was just an old method for grounding. I’ve had some pedals that ran a wire to the backplate but most of them ground underneath the circuit board now (if I’m not mistaken).

    EHX started making their pedals true bypass a little while ago, and shortly before that they started shipping all of their pedals with 3PDT switches so that we could TB mod them ourselves – should we so desire, of course.

    All that aside, what do you think of it? It’s a fun little (big) box, hey?

    #96747
    devnulljp
    Participant
    Quote:
    The screw is nothing to worry about, it was just an old method for grounding. I’ve had some pedals that ran a wire to the backplate but most of them ground underneath the circuit board now (if I’m not mistaken).

    EHX started making their pedals true bypass a little while ago, and shortly before that they started shipping all of their pedals with 3PDT switches so that we could TB mod them ourselves – should we so desire, of course.

    All that aside, what do you think of it? It’s a fun little (big) box, hey?

    Thanks for the info. It is a fun box…it totally changes the way you play. Just for fun, I ran an octave multiplexer in front of it, and couldn’t help but play some Bootsy.

    I’m trying to decipher the switch layout to wire the LED as an on/off indicator rather than just a power indicator, which would be more useful.

    Here’s the switch (same orientation as the full pic above):
    Q-Tron-switchledmod.jpg

    Labelled like this:

    1  2  3
    4  5  6
    7  8  9
    |____|

    #1 goes to the circuit board
    #4 is the input (?)
    #7 & #9 are jumpered together
    #3 goes to the circuit board
    #6 is the output

    The info I found is this but it’s a bit ambiguous — can anyone clarify?:
    To get the LED to only come on when the effect is on, splice into the LED’s ground (black) wire, solder the wire coming from the circuit board to #2, and the wire going to the LED to #5.

    #96777
    John J
    Member

    http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showpost.php?s=75fc2ef9fac4cca42e7838f4d31cf25a&p=5112451&postcount=12

    That’s for a Bass Microsynth, but the poster talks about how he used the same method for doing his Q-Tron at the end of the post. I used this thread to mod my Micro Synth for LED status, it works nicely and it took my soldering iron longer to heat up than it did for me to do the actual work.

    Whole thread here: http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=315187

    #96780
    devnulljp
    Participant

    Thank you! That looks about right.
    I’m going to get the old soldering iron out right now and try it.
    EDIT: It worked. So for future reference.

    EHX Q-Tron LED mod
    Stock, the LED is a power on indicator only — not an effect on indicator. To make the LED light only when the effect is on:
    1. desolder the black wire coming from the LED at the top right corner of the board (2nd pad in).

    2. With the switch labelled like this (lugs 7 and 9 are jumpered together):

    1  2  3
    4  5  6
    7  8  9
    |____|

    Solder the free end of that black wire from the LED to lug #5.

    3. Add a new wire from the pad on the board that the black wire was connected to, to lug #2 on the switch.

    Labelled photo before:
    th_Q-Tron-modinstructions.jpg

    Photo after (added wire is grey):
    th_qtron-led-modded.jpg
    Here’s the switch:
    th_moddedswitch.jpg

    #117080
    Qtronico
    Member

    And how could i do it to a q tron plus?
    Cause is different inside.
    thanks

    #118673
    Qtronico
    Member

    could help me to do it with a q tron plus?

    #125604
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    could help me to do it with a q tron plus?

    Follow the same directions for the original Q. The ground and LED wires perform the same function and the 3pdt switch operates the same way

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