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  • #78796
    VstaR
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    HI there,
    This is my first post on the EHX forums.
    I’m just wanting a bit of feedback from a mod or someone else that might know for sure if I have a problem here. Well, I think I do.

    I already own lots of EHX pedals. Metal Muff, Little Big Muff, Micro POG.
    I just had to get the 2nd sub octave on the POG2 :D

    But I can’t seem to run the pedal without the attack/LP filter and detune all happening at the same time.
    I should be able to skip the effects altogether shouldn’t I?
    Is the pedal faulty?

    It just arrived today, and I’ve had it running for only 5 minutes and I think it was operating correctly for the first couple of minutes, but now, no matter which DRY FX setting I have it on, all 3 of the “effect” sliders are operating. Even with the LIGHT OFF, they still change the sound on the output.

    I really want to run this pedal clean with no filtering/attack, etc.
    I don’t suppose this is a common fault on anyone else’s POG2?

    Could I possibly be operating it wrong?

    I’m using the same power supply as I use for all the other EHX pedals I have.

    #100644
    VstaR
    Member

    in fact, when the DRY FX are off, the attack seems to be only half affecting the output.
    not quite kicking in as it should when I hit the first colour in the sequence.

    the LP filter is always on.

    the detune is similar to attack.
    It’s always operating, but I think it works moreso/properly when I hit that 3rd setting on the DRY FX button.

    it must be not working properly.

    #100645
    VstaR
    Member

    I’m also not sure if this is the responsibility of the seller of the pedal.

    Should they replace it for me or is it now mine and has to be fixed under warranty?

    #100665
    VstaR
    Member
    Quote:
    when the DRY FX are off, the attack seems to be only half affecting the output.
    not quite kicking in as it should when I hit the first colour in the sequence.

    the LP filter is always on.

    the detune is similar to attack.
    It’s always operating, but I think it works moreso/properly when I hit that 3rd setting on the DRY FX button.

    doh!

    I’m so stupid.

    Only the input signal bypasses the effects.
    All of the sub octaves pass through the filtering regardless.
    Which is why it seems to “kick in” stronger, when the original signal also passes through the filtering.

    Now I’m not so sure I like the octaves being filtered out.
    I might have been better off getting another Micro POG instead of this pedal.
    Oh shoot! I really wanted a 2nd sub octave that was pure and filter free…

    #106404
    GfromHarpOn
    Member
    Quote:
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    when the DRY FX are off, the attack seems to be only half affecting the output.
    not quite kicking in as it should when I hit the first colour in the sequence.

    the LP filter is always on.

    the detune is similar to attack.
    It’s always operating, but I think it works moreso/properly when I hit that 3rd setting on the DRY FX button.

    doh!
    I’m so stupid.
    Only the input signal bypasses the effects.
    All of the sub octaves pass through the filtering regardless.
    Which is why it seems to “kick in” stronger, when the original signal also passes through the filtering.

    Now I’m not so sure I like the octaves being filtered out.
    I might have been better off getting another Micro POG instead of this pedal.
    Oh shoot! I really wanted a 2nd sub octave that was pure and filter free…

    A belated follow up for other readers. Most of this is covered in the manual.
    * LP filter needs to be set all the way up to turn it off.
    * Attack and Detune need to be all the way down to turn them off.

    LED State MODE
    Off – DRY bypasses all effects
    RED – DRY goes through Attack control, bypasses LP Filter and Detune
    GREEN – DRY goes through Attack and LP Filter, bypasses Detune
    AMBER – DRY goes through all three effects: Attack, LP Filter and Detune

    Where the POG has separate detune sliders for +1 & +2, the POG2 has a single Detune slider for both +ve octaves only, it doesn’t affect the -ve octaves. This is the only feature the POG offers that the POG2 doesn’t.

    I own both the Micro POG and POG2. The Micro POG is a neat little pedal, although personally I find it has a slightly plaintive quality to it’s octaves which I don’t like. Also I notice it’s slight latency whereas I don’t with the POG2. Although with two POG2s in a row both using octave effects the latency is noticeable.

    In my view the POG2 is superior to the original in almost every aspect: Smaller foot print; 9vDC; -2 octave; Attack effect; Separate control over “Q” & LP Filter … and Attack that applies to all octaves, and which apply to Dry; 8 presets which can be selected by a foot switch. I don’t mind that I don’t have individual control over octave up dry/detune levels, it seems a very small price for the trade off.

    What’s more it’s very easy to install a relay switch control to the preset switch, so a remote MIDI controlled relay switch can select POG2 presets. The POG2 itself is seated off the floor board up next to other MIDI controlled effects. Instead of having to hit the POG2 bypass, one preset is clean and dry effectively serving the same purpose.

    To do this requires installing a 4mm stereo jack into the side of the enclosure out of the way of the other circuitry, wire tip and ring to the two contacts of the preset switch. Do not wire the jack’s shield/ground to anything, if you’re using a dual core shielded cable to the relay, then the jack’s shield can be wired to this, but make sure the shield never contacts either of the relay connections or the jack’s tip/ring.
    When you connect then disconnect the installed jack’s tip and ring it’s the same as stepping on the preset switch. Which is what the FCB1010 relays do. FCB1010 relays have mono 1/4″ jacks, do NOT wire the POG2’s new jack’s shield to either of the FCB1010’s relay connections.

    #105888
    VstaR
    Member

    thanks G – kinda funny for me seeing this thread come back alive after so long :)

    I have figured out how to drive it now but I let my missus have the pog 2 (which suits her acoustic guitar soooo well) but I found in the end that I’m happier with the micro pog to just add that little bit more beef to my sound.

    I’m waiting on a stereo electric mistress to arrive this week! can’t wait ;)

    #105889
    GfromHarpOn
    Member

    Cool. :)
    Yeah, I’m looking through the EHX archives to see if anyone else has two POG2s chained together.
    I’ve found with both engaged they’re creating unwanted noise which I didn’t see coming.
    Cheers,
    — G.

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