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  • August 31, 2011 at 11:48 am #81833
    guedzilla
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    So, I’m sitting here bored (at work 🙄 ) and thought of asking you nice fellows for some suggestions about my pedalboard. I’ve aqcuired a few toys lately, barely managed to put them all inside the pedalboard, but have yet to find the best order.
    Plus, I’ll probably be playing in an alternative something band in a near future… possibly something in the ways of Placebo meets Siouxsie and the Banshees. (We’re still composing mainly on acoustic).

    The players:

    Korg Pitchblack Tuner
    EHX Big Muff RI
    EHX Double Muff
    EHX Hot Tubes
    EHX Electric Mistress
    EHX Deluxe Electric Mistress
    Proco You Dirty Rat
    Dunlop Crybaby
    Boss CE2 clone
    BB Preamp sort of clone
    FX loop pedal with blend control
    MXR 117 Flanger
    Boss DD3
    Boss FV50L Volume pedal

    I don’t mean to put everything in (it probably wouldn’t fit anyway, so…)

    August 31, 2011 at 1:13 pm #115621
    Cryabetes
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    you have an FX loop pedal with blend control? really? homemade or what brand?

    personally I’d set up as
    Korg PB
    EHX Hot Tubes
    Dunlop Crybaby
    EHX Double muff
    (modulation pedal 1)
    EHX BMreish
    Y.D. Rat
    (modulation pedal 2)
    DD3
    FX Loop((Modulation pedal 3),(Modulation pedal 4))
    FV50L
    BB Pre

    As far as modulation pedals, dang you like flangers. maybe trade one for a phaser or LFO filter for more range?

    August 31, 2011 at 1:39 pm #115624
    guedzilla
    Member

    The FX loop pedal is homemade, by a guy here from Sñ£o Paulo.

    http://www.efxpedais.com/loopblender.html

    I find it works nicely with distortion pedals, you blend in the clean signal.

    Flangers are IT! :D
    I like having one before distortion and one after.

    Also it would be nice to have the volume pedal before the delay, to do that swelling and stuff, but it would have to be the high impedance one.

    Why would you put the overdrive at last?

    I might try that setup at home later, thanks!

    August 31, 2011 at 3:23 pm #115627
    Cryabetes
    Participant

    I suppose I should’ve clarified a couple things in that line up
    – hot tubes – keep it set fairly clean, leave it on all the time. will act as your signal driver.
    – double muff/big muff/rat – these are your distortion flavors.
    – BB Preamp – keep it set fairly clean with about a 12db clean boost. leave it on all the time. use the volume pedal to roll back for ‘clean’ tones, or step on it for amp breakup overdrive.

    volume before delay – why would it have to be a high impedance one?

    you may want to play with that to see whether having the YDRat or the BM in the fx loop would work better. Maybe YDRat before and BM in the loop, blended about half, and move the crybaby after them? iunno, just a thought.

    Other idea for a modulation pedal – the EHX ring thing, which would open up a whole new bunch of possibilities.

    August 31, 2011 at 4:46 pm #115596
    guedzilla
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    Interesting.

    The low impedance volume works best after a buffered pedal… and most things I usually have before the delay are true-bypass or non-buffered. The times I tried it before the DD3, there was some significant signal loss… but I think the Hot Tubes would fix that on this setup.

    I’ve used the Rat on the effects loop, and running that into a slightly overdriven amp has been my best distortion so far. I’ve played that way for several months on a band, the only problem was, the sound was very amp-sensitive.

    I’m curious, I’ll see if I can try this setup tonight.

    August 31, 2011 at 10:43 pm #115599
    guedzilla
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    You think I’d have enough cables to patch that all up… :)

    Anyways.
    Double Muff gotta go on first, or else it gets too trebly.
    I got a lot of hiss from that setup, I think it might be my cables, but also all that gain going on all the time (Hot Tubes, BB clone).

    One nice thing to try out is to split the signal at different points and join it back together.
    Like

    direct/ Big Muff >
    / MXR > Hot Tubes > DD3 <
    direct/ wet CE2 clone >
    > DM > Tu > DEM <
    wet
    BB clone >

    >

    The only problem is how to snap those signals back together. I can join 2 with the FX loop.

    I just tested

    / Hot Tubes
    direct/
    signal > DEM < > FX loop
    wet /
    BB clone /

    and it was nice to trim out a bit of the DEM. It gets too intense on most setting in my opinion.

    August 31, 2011 at 11:54 pm #115602
    guedzilla
    Member

    …

    This is such a win win!!

    The Double Muff inside the FX loop… blended with the clean signal… it’s unbelievable!

    September 1, 2011 at 2:49 pm #115608
    Cryabetes
    Participant

    nice! and yeah, a ‘clean’ pedal on all the time gets rid of the high impedance issues. I use a Cusack Screamer because it doesn’t sound like anything with the dirt down.
    and yeah Rats are awesome for overdriving amps; I figured with the influences that you were going for and a bit of research into the BB Pre that using the RAT as a different flavor and the BB as a clean boost made more sense, but really, they’re interchangable in that setup.

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