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June 30, 2015 at 7:07 am #84004CONTEMPL8Participant
Hello I have the 45000 and love it! But there are a few things I would do differently if you come out with a newer looper:
1) 4 input channels so I can really record a lot at once in my creative lil jam den. And make it so you can record the four inputs to their own track simultaneously. So that would mean we’d need at least 16 tracks.
2) read out with time on it so I can see how long I’ve been recording (be nice for that to be on the foot switch also)
3) true bouncing of loops. yeah I know you hook the 45000 up to your computer or pop the SD card into your computer and clone a track, and then go back to being creative, but it would be so much more smooth to be able to do some recording, and then clone what you did at the click of a button and bounce that to a new loop, so that now you can continue recording and have a saved copy before you made the new changes. Just like in photoshop, you want to save a copy sometimes so that you have it in the bank separate from what you are doing a while later in case your finger slips and you mess something up, or your power goes out or what have you, and again just so you can do more with what you already recorded but be able to totally go back to before what you add later. This would be particularly helpful when mixing down, so you can keep adding onto your loop creation by clearing your tracks by mixing down and then bumping the mixdown to a single track on a new loop. That way you can easily go back and undo things, and quickly too. You see having to go to my computer to do all this sort of thing strains the creativity, and you might get distracted and forget what you were trying to do on the loop by the time you get the cloning done that way.
4) Have loop mode and non loop mode, so that when we are doing recording and don’t want to overdub over the first part of the recording accidentally we can avoid it. This number 4 may not be feasible and I don’t care about it as much as the other numbers above. But if possible it would be cool.And thanks, I know what I am talking about is unconventional, but I don’t need a lecture from some wonk about it. I think the 45000 has broke ground that if expanded on will be the future of recording creatively. I hate DAW’s etc. with all their little bitty menus and shit. I want to just be able to record and stop recording. I can mess with effects etc. later on using some computer software, but while recording I don’t want a million knobs and menus, I just want a simple interface (albeit with more channels and tracks) so I can record the basics while they are streaming out of my skull. Some of us don’t like having to find the mouse on the computer screen and then go through menus and shit. We are more on the fly, and we forget our stream of thought with all that computer and DAW shit. If the 45000 had more inputs and better cloning/bouncing and better time read out and few other things I forgot it could be an amazing way to record stuff for those of us who don’t like DAW’s as they currently exist.
July 13, 2015 at 2:48 am #120775ancaja123ParticipantYou are right on the money with this and I have had the same idea in the past!!! Especially if there were a feature to have loop tracks and free tracks, and also have the ability to have quantized stuff at time sigs other than 4/4
“And thanks, I know what I am talking about is unconventional, but I don’t need a lecture from some wonk about it. I think the 45000 has broke ground that if expanded on will be the future of recording creatively. I hate DAW’s etc. “
i too think it broke ground…i compose much better stuff on it than any other tool. They succeeded in bringing back the 4-Track in a lot of ways, I certainly love portastudios but there is no good/simple digital replacement. the typical digital recorders are too complex, not tactile at all.
December 31, 2015 at 10:34 am #121139CONTEMPL8ParticipantI really would love to see this and know others would too. I make such good music with my bandmate when we record things off the cuff that we would forget otherwise. You can really capture your personal genius and then review it and expand it after the initial recording, but the initial recording is key! Working with a DAW or even a multitrack like a Zoom 8 or 16 tracker are just too damn annoying to use. I had one before and I can’t tell you how many times I did something sweet off the cuff out of thin air with great lyrics and guitar but it was all for nought because the damn Zoom recorder didn’t record! You have to “arm” the Zoom tracks etc. and that’s just too much to worry about that you lose your train of creative thought, or you don’t actually end up with a recording like I was just saying.
I would love to see a 4 input Looper Recorder just like the 45000! I may actually buy this TASCAM thing [TASCAM DR-70D 4-Channel DSLR Audio Recorder] that is for DSLR cameras to capture audio for videos you shoot with it. http://smile.amazon.com/dp/B00OY6718K?psc=1
This thing would work great, except that it doesn’t have mixdown options or track faders etc. like the 45000 has, but it does have the 4 inputs that I am looking for.God I would give a lot to have a 45000 with 4 inputs! Please make one Electro Harmonix! Seriously it would make millions of dollars for you because it makes recording so damn easy and intuitive that people get their best ideas out in ways they cannot with clunky conventional recording DAWs etc. This is seriously a breakthrough idea on top of the already breakthrough 45000. Please make it happen EHX!
January 6, 2016 at 11:39 pm #121154suttleMemberAgreed. I picked up the 2880 a few years back and thought it was a brilliant little machine. Actually spent some time trying to use it as a proper recording control surface/interface but found it to be too much of a hassle.
Here’s my issue, I want to record and mix inside the box initially, leaving me with fewer decisions to make once I decide to put my tracks on a DAW, and as a result, making fewer bad decisions in the editing process.
But yeah, though I love the 2880, and I’m sure the 45000 is a wonderful device; however I’m holding out for EHX to produce a proper gadget for home studios. I do expect that it would be a game changer, and their loopers, with a few additions such as an EQ, additional inputs, and better DAW compatibility, would be the perfect template.
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