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January 6, 2009 at 12:18 am #90147BlueSteelParticipant
Cool, i like how the frequency analyzer will be smaller and won’t take up a lot of room on my pedalboard if I buy it. Also, are the new XO pedals the same price as the older ones or are they the same price?
January 6, 2009 at 7:42 am #90159electro-melxModeratorQuote:Cool, i like how the frequency analyzer will be smaller and won’t take up a lot of room on my pedalboard if I buy it. Also, are the new XO pedals the same price as the older ones or are they the same price?In the UK they seem a little more expensive….BUT, I’m pretty sure that’s because of the fall in value of the pound rather than ehx putting the prices up.
January 14, 2009 at 7:15 pm #90698issofunkyMemberI wish the di-cast chasis was the ONLY thing they’d been changing about their pedals…but it just isn’t so. the circut board / models they’ve been putting out the last two years (clone theory and the mem man with haz) are NOT the pedals we’ve all come to love over the years.
I have 3 mem man, and I’m hanging on to them forever if these “new” asian-made circuit boards are a sign of what’s to come with this company,
I can’t blame them for wanting to make a buck…but they should just double their prices.
I know I’d keep buying their new ideas if the execution was still as solid as the 80’s-90’s gear has been.
I’m REALLY glad I bought the pulsar and worm last year before they swapped it with their current models. I’m going to go grab a poly chorus and micro synth before those are as hard to find as a Whammy WH-1 is.
January 14, 2009 at 7:17 pm #90699issofunkyMemberQuote:Quote:Cool, i like how the frequency analyzer will be smaller and won’t take up a lot of room on my pedalboard if I buy it. Also, are the new XO pedals the same price as the older ones or are they the same price?In the UK they seem a little more expensive….BUT, I’m pretty sure that’s because of the fall in value of the pound rather than ehx putting the prices up.
my opinion…get what you pay for….buy something dunlop makes and you’ll get my drift first hand.
EH gear pedals should be 300 – 500 dollars…and offer one of a kind customization for 1000+ to people like me who are rich and willing to spend it.
January 14, 2009 at 7:53 pm #90700julianModeratorOf the 7 XO pedals I’ve owned, all of them have been good. They may be different, but they’re still quality stuff.
January 14, 2009 at 8:03 pm #90702electro-melxModeratorok, where to start…so many points?…
The Hazarai is probably as good as anything EHX have ever made imo…but you are right it’s not what we’ve come to expect, rather than a stream of reissues consisting of flawed vintage analogue circuits in boxes big enough to use as a foot stool, EHX suprised everyone with a modern digital delay with the best reverse delay around, a great looper, loads of features and functions that you can get lost in for years….I hope they continue to push the boundaries in this way.
The Hazarai isn’t a replacement for the DMM, which they continue to make for people like yourself that prefer a vintage analogue delay unit…as far as i’m aware there are no plans to discontinue it.
Asia has a good history in electronic manufacturing/design …you only have to look at companies like Sony to see they are world leaders in electronics and I’m happy for people there to contruct the circuit boards in pedals I use….I think they are as good in quaility as boards made anywhere else in the world.
If EHX doubled their prices tomorrow the only thing that would happen is they would sell less….how does that benefit the company?
I have several vintage pedals and I think the contruction of the new pedals is much better for gig use, I have a vintage 10-band EQ that has plastic sliders that are easily broken, I have a big muff where the front of the case has collaped inwards due to it being a peice of thin bent steel. In all seriousness I like the look of the old pedals but if you think they are built ‘better’ than I’d have to disagree.
I have owned both Pulsars and the stereo version sounds almost identical, I sold the big unit because I found the stereo outputs useful.
at the end of the day I’m a musician, I don’t really care where a pedal is made or what it looks like, I judge a pedal on what it does and how it sounds. EHX have missed the mark on several pedals in my opinion, but I still think 90% of their output is as good as you can get.
…and welcome to the forum.
January 14, 2009 at 8:45 pm #90707Ned FlandersModeratorEHX build quality has gone up considerably in the XO and nano pedals, EHX were not known for their high quality builds in the 70’s/80’s, I know cause I have vintage units that could do with a lot more solder and I’ve seen component leads that could be clipped off by a mile. EHX has always been very fair with prices and keeping them low is a big benefit to the company, it allows them to sell lots of units rather than just selling a few at stupid prices. EHX are THE innovators in effects pedals, their pedals are used buy the rich, the poor, the bedroom player and big time rockstars too. EHX is doing everything right in the effects business. They need change nothing!
January 15, 2009 at 12:11 am #90705julianModeratorQuote:my opinion…get what you pay for….buy something dunlop makes and you’ll get my drift first hand.EH gear pedals should be 300 – 500 dollars…and offer one of a kind customization for 1000+ to people like me who are rich and willing to spend it.
1000+ is a lot for custom mods. You can find people who will do that sort of stuff for you for less.
I think it kind of differs from EH’s business model. When you have the distribution and name recognition you do, you want to sell as cheaply as you can because it’s all about moving a lot of units. At the same time, EHX will also make more expensive pedals that won’t move as much- like the HOG.
I wouldn’t say that “you get what you pay for.” To a certain extent it’s true, but it’s not the rule. There’s good stuff at every price range, and crap at every price range.
January 15, 2009 at 12:50 am #90747electro-melxModeratorQuote:I wouldn’t say that “you get what you pay for.” To a certain extent it’s true, but it’s not the rule. There’s good stuff at every price range, and crap at every price range.I think it’s becomming less and less true as the years go by….what you pay for more than anything these days seems to me to be:
A: where something in manufactured (anything made in the UK is auctomatically more expensive regardless of quality, probably true for the US too)
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B: the name the product carries. (a desirable brand or designer label will always carry a higher price regardless of quality)
…for example VOX went through some very bad periods in the past, the amps were being made in the UK so they carried a premium for that and because they had the ‘legendary’ VOX badge you paid a premium for that too, but due to the high cost of building them here they used cheap components. So what you ended up with was a poor quality amp with a very high price, not really ideal.
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