http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2155181

Man, my rant / perspective / opinion really helped me get my piece of mind off my chest, ( not a whole lot of people are into quality gear – so these forums are really nice ) but it’s more like shaking my fist in the air. “Did you just see what God did to me, man? ” But i have to only respect Costch’s opinion and almost demand to the powers that be , that a solution will present itself. (They usually do)
ALSO, he raises an excellent point about keeping up old/used/vintage pedals. I am a tech and a keyboard player , no pedals, moog or electro harmonix will ever touch the floor. For many reasons just like what was listed on fender ehx 4ever’s previous link. So, they never get dirty, and they look as new as they sound. SO, you go to look on ebay to complete the collection and you see all these git-fiddlin’ guitarists who don’t care what it looks like, they look destroyed after they’re done with them. vintage amps and guitars are a mystery to me, they sell for a premium no matter how battered they are. Vintage keyboards / rack equipment are totally dependent on condition.

AND , i’ll say this as nicely as possible , for anyone who’s really ever serviced an antique digital reverb or BBD based Chorus/Delay etc…. knows those are custom, out-dated BBD or proprietary IC’s, and while you can still get the panasonic’s (doubt the pinout is compatible – roland used alot of similar ones, as well as proprietary ic’s.) the point is you simply can’t find replacement parts.

The real issue underpinning all of this though is the fact that the classic chassis does have an awkward flaw like every other piece of gear utilizing modern manufacturing techniques. The potentiometers and footswitches are soldered to the board, then those components are mounted to the chassis. Everything’s great- until you step on it wrong or, on uneven flooring, apply awkward pressure onto the case. Then your putting direct pressure on the PCB. This is not as serious as it sounds, if you abuse it, it will break. But i implore anyone buying second hand E-H pedals to immediately open it up, and see if one of the corners or 1/2 of the board is hot-glued back together with wire jumpers completing the broken traces. This is the only and best fix, but is NOT gig worthy , and i wouldn’t step on it ever again, but it should work for a long time. So for those of us buying choice pieces of coveted gear (new or old) and not just looking at them as utilitarian as a pair of boots- “caveat emptor”

Long message – but on a related note- where is E-H tech support? i’ve been looking for a phone # or (i guess) email. I need to talk to a tech to find out some of differences in circuit design with the new pedals. Are they hybrid digital/analog – like the new memory man w/ harzai – it obviously has some smarts with patch memories, but is the signal processing still 100% analog etc…. questions just like this.

Thanks again you guys!!!!!

I’m pretty sure the filter is analog, the delay is definitely digital, and the dry goes through an all analog path.

I’m sure there is at least one other poster that’s mentioned he uses his pedals on keyboards and yeah, please feel free to start your own keyboard thread in the lounge or wherever you like. :thumb:

god!! thank you!!! i’ll be parting with some cash very soon! The one’s i have been drooling over are fair game!! Thank you so much for the response , you’ve soothed my troubled mind. man , the new clone theory into the polyphase are just what any polysynth’s doctor ordered! great point about the hog and memory man, that would be an awesome combo to any sound! i have the small stone and small clone i use quite alot, and while they’re great pedals, the aforementioned pedals would be a great step up. I guess i should have mentioned my concerns were mostly with digital chorus and phasing, i’ve used okay new rack units, and they can’t hold a match to the E-H pedals, and these new ones have more options! rad.

My plea to EHX….talking of vintage pedals and large enclosures….is it possible for one of the EHX staff to give us some info on the possible/not possible re-issue of the great Crying Tone pedal series?
Used one of mine again in a session last Thursday, coupled with a vintage Deluxe Octave Multiplexer, a vintage Deluxe Big Muff, a vintage Deluxe Electric Mistress and ( I absolutely agree, already an EHX classic) a Stereo Memory Man with Hazarei, playing a custom Fender Telecaster with Shadow PU, and putting the whole lot into a Vox amp. Talk about getting hooked on the EHX mojo! The two other guitarists there spent quite a lot of time trying to figure out where the sounds were coming from.

The Crying Tone is a great vintage pedal. My plea to EHX…..!