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    I’m frustrated by the noise of this switch – can easily be heard on recordings: CLICK-CLACK. I play in a semi acoustic jazz group. EHX please come up with an up to date replacement that is in line with your competition: my Line 6 delay unit has 4 switches that are almost silent! This one, although the electronics are fantastic, has limited application all because of this switch.

    #110882
    janusEffect
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    The clicking you hear is a natural, random, and unfortunate byproduct of true bypass switching. Line 6 pedals don’t use true bypass systems – they all have active, buffered bypass systems AFAIK. While such switching gives you the benefit of no switching noise and can prevent minor signal loss, they alter the impedance of your signal – changing the tone of everything that goes through it and after it. It’s a very subtle and hard to notice change in most instances, but sometimes it can be a problem (for example, most fuzz pedals sound quite different when the signal’s impedance changes).

    EHX chose to go with true bypass switching on most of their pedals because it’s efficient, simple, and does not alter the signal. I doubt they’d want to go the other route, since some tone “purists” would be thoroughly annoyed by the tonal impact of other types of bypass systems.

    Now, as for your problem… “popping” and other switch noise can sometimes be reduced or eliminated by stepping on the switch several times in a row to discharge the capacitors. Capacitors store energy long after the pedal is turned off, and if enough energy is built up, it can result in noise when stepping on the switch. See if that idea helps get rid of it – at least for the recording session.

    #110883
    janusEffect
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    Another idea: You could get a bypass switcher (a.k.a., bypass loop pedal) which uses relays or an active buffer.

    Don’t confuse these with true bypass loop pedals – those will have the same potential problems you’re experiencing now. Unfortunately, relay-based and buffered bypass loop pedals cost a lot more than their true bypass counterparts. Lehle is a popular option for this, and I know there are others out there, too.

    Also, the switch noise you’re experiencing doesn’t always happen – it’s uncommon, and even when it does occur, it normally isn’t frequent and happens to be random. There really isn’t much you can do about it outside of a bypass loop pedal.

    #110885

    The MicroPog is actually not true bypass. Surprised you’re hearing a click, but is it really that unworkable? Rock n’Roll is noisy, no?

    #110900
    julian
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    Sometimes adding 1 megohm resistors from input and output to ground helps get rid of that.

    Though that doesn’t always do it.

    Generally the problem happens because when the pedal turns on the LED pulls a bunch of current and creates an audible pop.

    Better than true bypass is millennium bypass, which slowly turns the LED on when the pedal is turned on, so as to avoid the pop.

    #111156
    adaidsphone
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    by pass switch is a very good idea but you should go to the sound engineer he’ll batter assist you !!!

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