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November 25, 2009 at 2:44 pm #79385maximusMember
I’m on the market for an analog delay, but I want to make sure the one I get allows the echos to trail off after you kill the effect. Can anyone with experience with the Memory Toy tell me whether or not it does this?
I’ve tried the carbon copy and it does not
The other one I’m looking at is the Tech 21 Boost DLA which does the trails but it is more than 2x the price of the toy…
Thanks
MaxNovember 25, 2009 at 2:56 pm #104216Kevin DemuthMemberi can’t think of any analogue delays (off the top of my head) with a trails function…
i’m pretty sure the Memory Toy and Boy don’t have the trails as they’re both true-bypass.
by the way, the Tech 21 isn’t an analogue delay; it’s digital with an ‘analogue’ voicing.
if you don’t mind it being digital (there really is nothing wrong with a digital pedal after all) then you could look at an Akai Headrush or the Digitech DL-8.
November 25, 2009 at 2:57 pm #104217electro-melxModerator…..they won’t do ‘trails’ because they are ‘true bypass’ as soon as you click the footswitch the circuit board is totally disconnected from the signal, so the echos cut off totally…. unfortunally a lot of people demand that pedals are true bypass these days, so i’m afraid it’s a case of not being able to please everyone.
November 25, 2009 at 4:00 pm #104219maximusMemberThanks for the advice, I actually own a Headrush and it’s great except it doesn’t do the crazy feedback-oscillation thing I’m looking for when you manipulate the knobs in realtime. It also has cheap switches that only work like 90% of the time when you step on them. Other than that I think it sounds great.
The only truly “analog” thing I’m looking for is that spacy feedback-oscillation, I’m not a huge tone snob when it comes to delays like some people.
Looks like I may have to go with the Boost DLA as it is the only one I’ve found within my price range that does both the oscillation and the trails.
November 26, 2009 at 11:59 am #104277electro-melxModeratorQuote:well, you could get the toy and make it not true bypass, i think, i dont know much on that but i think it could be done.That’s an interesting idea but I’m not sure you can ‘untrue-bypass’ something easily… I’d imagine that if it doesn’t have ‘true bypass’ …. then it would still need to have to have some kind of ‘other’ bypass built into the pedal … or it would just be ‘no bypass’ 😆
….needs more investigation that one I think, I really don’t know.
November 26, 2009 at 12:17 pm #104278Kevin DemuthMemberQuote:well, you could get the toy and make it not true bypass, i think, i dont know much on that but i think it could be done.in theory it could be done…
but you’re going to need to add buffers and make other modifications to the circuit… and you’d probably have to re-house too.
for the BYOC Delay for example, there’s a mod to allow for delay trails, but that involves finding the point in the circuit where the repeats are mixed back with the direct signal and diverting it… that will more than likely be VERY difficult with the Memory Toy (which i’m assuming uses surface mount components) and will be beyond most DIY pedal modders/builders.
November 26, 2009 at 5:57 pm #104292julianModeratorYou could make a loop box that allows for trails. That’s the simplest way.
December 10, 2009 at 3:09 pm #105127diegoartsMemberSeymour Duncan – Deja Vu.
It’s Digital AND Analog AND has the possibility to let the analog delays trail off!December 10, 2009 at 3:14 pm #105128electro-melxModeratorQuote:Seymour Duncan – Deja Vu.
It’s Digital AND Analog AND has the possibility to let the analog delays trail off!How can it be digital and analogue?
December 10, 2009 at 3:42 pm #105130Kevin DemuthMemberQuote:Quote:Seymour Duncan – Deja Vu.
It’s Digital AND Analog AND has the possibility to let the analog delays trail off!How can it be digital and analogue?
from what i gather, it has a digital delay and analogue delay in parallel, with a control to blend between them.
i’m not sure how it works in practise though… particularly with the tap tempo…
are the digital and analogue delays in sync with each other? it seems doubtful to me as the digital delay can go up to 3 seconds or something. i don’t know of many analogue delays with more than half a second delay time.December 10, 2009 at 4:06 pm #105134electro-melxModeratorQuote:Quote:Quote:Seymour Duncan – Deja Vu.
It’s Digital AND Analog AND has the possibility to let the analog delays trail off!How can it be digital and analogue?
from what i gather, it has a digital delay and analogue delay in parallel, with a control to blend between them.
i’m not sure how it works in practise though… particularly with the tap tempo…
are the digital and analogue delays in sync with each other? it seems doubtful to me as the digital delay can go up to 3 seconds or something. i don’t know of many analogue delays with more than half a second delay time.interesting….
December 10, 2009 at 6:35 pm #105145diegoartsMemberhi, i didn’t have the chance to play yet, but from what i’ve read on their website and in some blogs, it’s a digital brain, keeping a ~100% original data in mind and then sends it through an high quality BBD-chip at the tapped time. so ?!?!? the outcome is a digital delayed, but analog processed signal. problem here is maybe, that the signal went through an ADA, but what i’ve heard it’s a great tone and you can mix the digital with the analog sound for blending. but the analog signal is analog. and there is true bypass and the option for buffered with trails.
there even is a internal wet loop, so you can put your own pedals in to fool around with the delayed signal only.looking at the hopefully soon approaching DELUXE MEMORY BOY with tap tempo, i wonder if it isn’t the same technique?!
interesting stuff!
br
diego
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