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  • June 26, 2010 at 6:09 am #80410
    onthemour
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    GRRRRRRR My BMTW is not loud anymore?! I got a normal BM over a month ago and the volume dropped so I traded it for one with a tone wicker and the volume was louder with the tone off but now it is not as loud as it used to be, I can barely hear anything with the tone on and volume at 12! I am using a valveking stack with many other pedals. It sounds great then less than a month later the volume drops. Connections are good and I have tried both battery and wall wart but it is still to quite. What could have caused this? It has happened with both pedals. I love the harmonic distortion this creates but it is way to quite to match my clean sound.

    June 26, 2010 at 12:23 pm #109828
    The EH Man
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    Are you running another distortion/overdrive/fuzz into it?

    June 26, 2010 at 4:02 pm #109830
    onthemour
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    Yes. guitar > g-string decimator > route808 > electric mistress > big muff wicker > amp in > loop send > ibanez flanger > budha wah > frequency analyzer > pulsar > mxr 7 band eq > g-string > marshall echohead > bbe sonic stomp > loop in

    All true bypass except g string and route 808 (it has a good buffer for the start of the chain) the flanger also has a buffer at the start of the loop chain.
    Will the route 808 overdrive affect the volume of the big muff? I do not play them together. I use the muff for heavy distortion. The sustain is at 3 o’clock

    June 26, 2010 at 4:13 pm #109831
    SanquiFlerb
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    So you say that with the tone on it has less volume? that’s normal: the tone circuit is passive, so you’ll have to compensate with a little more volume from the vol knob.

    June 26, 2010 at 4:15 pm #109832
    julian
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    OT: I’d put the frequency analyzer between the amp in and BMPTW if I were you. It’s nice to have ring mod before some gain.

    Anyways- here’s what I’d check.

    Try the pedal with no other pedals, just two cables that you know are good.

    IF the pedal then works fine, you know it’s either a problem of pedal order or a faulty patch cable somewhere, try switching out the patch cables it is normally connected to. If that does nothing, try switching some pedal order around.

    If the pedal doesn’t work fine with the stand-alone test, then it could be the power. The power jack on my little big muff went faulty and I had to hook it up with a battery connector (luckily I have a plug for my PP2+ for just that purpose.)

    If it’s still not working. . . open it up. Look for any obvious problems. Look at the input/output jacks. I’ve had to repair the output jack on my little big muff from taking abuse from a patch cord, it bent one of the inner metal contacts and it couldn’t connect quite right.

    If still nothing, I’d email EHX and get an RA#, then send it to them for replacement/repair.

    Oh, actually one other thing. . . is this in a band or alone?

    Remember, with the tone off, the Big Muff has a mid scoop, which can give it an apparent volume drop in a live situation.

    June 26, 2010 at 4:20 pm #109833
    julian
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    Quote:
    So you say that with the tone on it has less volume? that’s normal: the tone circuit is passive, so you’ll have to compensate with a little more volume from the vol knob.

    this is true too, but on those settings with the tone on I’d still get above unity with mine.

    June 26, 2010 at 5:00 pm #109835
    onthemour
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    I will try it all by is self. My pedal board is wired in this order so that I do not have cables everywhere. I wish I could put the frequency analyzer before the amp but it wont fit on pedal board, it still sounds great where it is. I also have a battery connector to try. If it is the pedal order and not the pedal then I will be stumped, it used to sound louder in this exact order :s
    With the tone on it is really quite. Even with the volume all the way up it is about half the loudness compared to the clean sound

    June 26, 2010 at 6:03 pm #109836
    onthemour
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    Ok my big muff is fine :) I tried it by itself and then stuck it befor the overdrive. It just can’t go after the overdrive it has to go first. It loses so tone and so does the overdrive. I had the tone off when I plugged it in and was VERY LOUD LoL. Scarred the hell out of me. I forgot to turn the volumes down. My ear hurts and the neighbors probably freaked out.

    Why is the volume so low when it is after the overdrive? Does it have something to do with the buffer in the overdrive?

    June 26, 2010 at 8:05 pm #109837
    electro-melx
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    Ok my big muff is fine :) I tried it by itself and then stuck it befor the overdrive. It just can’t go after the overdrive it has to go first. It loses so tone and so does the overdrive. I had the tone off when I plugged it in and was VERY LOUD LoL. Scarred the hell out of me. I forgot to turn the volumes down. My ear hurts and the neighbors probably freaked out.

    Why is the volume so low when it is after the overdrive? Does it have something to do with the buffer in the overdrive?

    maybe .. impedance issues probably, a lot of fuzz pedals can be very unhappy with anything other than a guitar plugged into them… the Fuzz Face being a classic example of this.

    June 26, 2010 at 8:09 pm #109838
    julian
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    Probably didn’t like the buffer or the output impedance of the overdrive.

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