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  • January 19, 2016 at 7:27 am #121211
    Crowyote
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    the new tt1100 has (8) MN3008’s

    Wait . . . so EHX needs 8 MN3008 chips to get 1100 milliseconds; and yet Moog only needs 6 MN3008s to acheive 1200 ms (Moog 104M SD Super Delay)?

    What’s up with that?

    On the TGP forum, everyone seems to have the notion that the new EHX delays are using the new MN3005XVIVE. Howard Davis himself says it sounds just as good.

    The max delay time IS a function of the capacity of the chips, but it is also a function of the clock speed they are run at and the extent of filtering used. Heck, you can squeeze a full second out of a single MN3005….IF you are willing to live with 1khz bandwidth (or less), and the filtering needed to make the audio output consist of ONLY audio and not clock noise.

    So, 1200msec out of the euivalent of three 4096-stage chips? Sure, no problem. It won’t sound expecially bright or crisp, but it also won’t sound like listening to the apartment unit next door through a pillow pressed up against the wall.

    I wasn’t proposing that Moog would only use 3 chips, but since the cost on the new chip is relatively low perhaps they could just stuff the pedals full of em.

    The reviews of the MN3005XVIVE are starting to come in . . . and they seem to be mixed so far.

    Sticking with MN3008s may be the way to go. I would definitely say that tonewise the Moog 104M SD kicks the original DMM1100’s butt.

    June 24, 2023 at 4:08 am #199832
    Crowyote
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    Just wanna say a few years on and having had experience with various pedals using the different chipsets that the XviveMN3005 chip is the way to go.
    I’m a long time owner of the Memory Man 1100 TT with the Xvive chips and I owned both it and the panasonic version. Xvive sound more hi-fi and brighter/clearer overall.
    I’m posting this a bit in reaction to the new Boss DM-101 which still has 3008 chip in it, for a positively mushy sound.
    Someone needs to come out with a stereo analog dealy with 6-8 MN3005s designed to do true ping pong. Is it EHX or is Chase Bliss etc gonna beat em to it?

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