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  • November 9, 2015 at 10:16 am #84148
    Crowyote
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    It would seem to justify the incredible price drop that at least one very reputable dealer is offering:

    http://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MemoryMan1100

    Thats about 50% less than all the other dealers are offering them for. It appears some dealers are even selling the new batches for the same jacked up prices (because if they claim the pedal is new, all the old batches of pedals were completely bought up a while ago).

    It would be great to hear from EHX how they think the new BBD chip compares with the NOS Panasonic MN3005.

    December 13, 2015 at 5:40 pm #121090
    joesatch
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    the new tt1100 has (8) MN3008’s

    December 15, 2015 at 7:40 am #121091
    Crowyote
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    the new tt1100 has (8) MN3008’s

    Wait . . . so EHX needs 8 MN3008 chips to get 1100 milliseconds; and yet Moog only needs 6 MN3008s to acheive 1200 ms (Moog 104M SD Super Delay)?

    What’s up with that?

    On the TGP forum, everyone seems to have the notion that the new EHX delays are using the new MN3005XVIVE. Howard Davis himself says it sounds just as good.

    December 16, 2015 at 2:56 am #121092
    joesatch
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    lol, i’m just messing with ya. it uses (4) of the new xvive chips. They’re waiting for the shipment from china, then they’ll plug in the chips, calibrate and ship.

    December 22, 2015 at 2:15 pm #121114
    Tarmogoyf
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    Can anyone else confirm that they are the XVIVE MN3005 chips?

    December 22, 2015 at 2:25 pm #121115
    Tarmogoyf
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    Also, Howard David designed the original Memory Man, not the XVIVE mn3005 chips. So you might want to to fix the title to this post, as it makes you sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    December 22, 2015 at 3:47 pm #121116
    joesatch
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    Also, Howard David designed the original Memory Man, not the XVIVE mn3005 chips. So you might want to to fix the title to this post, as it makes you sound like you don’t know what you’re talking about.

    False, Howard Davis was a consultant on this project for the new chip.

    December 22, 2015 at 4:42 pm #121118
    Tarmogoyf
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    No shit.

    He did NOT design the chip, consultant on the project or not. It’s a clone of the original Panasonic MN3005 chip, which he also did NOT design. Howard Davis sent Xvive some of his personal NOS MN3005 chips for them to base their clone on. They sent him prototypes, which he reviewed, until the point at which he thought they were good enough to be marketed.

    Perhaps you’re just unfamiliar with the definition of the word design? Howard Davis approved, or Howard Davis reviewed, or Howard Davis endorsed would all be leagues more accurate than saying he designed the chip himself.

    For example; a private collector has a mint condition 1966 Chevy Camaro. A small auto company wants to make replicas of the same car, so the collector loans them his car to make copies of. They check back with the original owner who lets them know, in his opinion, when they have everything right. Only Chevrolet and to some extent the smaller auto company doing the reproductions would be the designers of the car, and definitely NOT the collector who loaned them the car for a few months.

    To say that Howard Davis designed the new MN3005 chips implies a level of involvement that did not take place. At no point did he live in China and help reverse engineer and then reproduce the chip. Howard Davis designs pedals, not microchips. Again with the auto analogies, that’s like saying the artists who design concept cars are also the engineers who build the engines. It’s all relative, but totally different parts of the whole picture.

    December 22, 2015 at 6:13 pm #121119
    joesatch
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    sorry you got your panties in a bunch..

    December 22, 2015 at 8:27 pm #121121
    Tarmogoyf
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    I’m sorry you have a 2nd grade reading comprehension level.

    LOL

    January 4, 2016 at 9:29 am #121144
    Crowyote
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    I guess they are Howard Davis designed in the same way that an Andy Warhol painting was designed by Andy Warhol.

    Fixed. Douche.

    January 4, 2016 at 4:10 pm #121145
    Tarmogoyf
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    I’m an idiot

    Your analogy is incorrect. If so, the chips would be Howard Davis MN3005 brand chips, which they are not.

    In the future, if you’re going to talk shit, be sure you know wtf you’re even talking about.

    Otherwise. . . . .

    January 4, 2016 at 4:24 pm #121146
    joesatch
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    I’m an idiot

    Your analogy is incorrect. If so, the chips would be Howard Davis MN3005 brand chips, which they are not.

    In the future, if you’re going to talk shit, be sure you know wtf you’re even talking about.

    Otherwise. . . . .

    you animal..

    January 4, 2016 at 10:40 pm #121147
    Scruffie
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    I’m an idiot

    Your analogy is incorrect. If so, the chips would be Howard Davis MN3005 brand chips, which they are not.

    In the future, if you’re going to talk shit, be sure you know wtf you’re even talking about.

    Otherwise. . . . .

    you animal..

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    It’s just semantics, chill out.

    January 15, 2016 at 11:04 pm #121185
    Mark Hammer
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    the new tt1100 has (8) MN3008’s

    Wait . . . so EHX needs 8 MN3008 chips to get 1100 milliseconds; and yet Moog only needs 6 MN3008s to acheive 1200 ms (Moog 104M SD Super Delay)?

    What’s up with that?

    On the TGP forum, everyone seems to have the notion that the new EHX delays are using the new MN3005XVIVE. Howard Davis himself says it sounds just as good.

    The max delay time IS a function of the capacity of the chips, but it is also a function of the clock speed they are run at and the extent of filtering used. Heck, you can squeeze a full second out of a single MN3005….IF you are willing to live with 1khz bandwidth (or less), and the filtering needed to make the audio output consist of ONLY audio and not clock noise.

    So, 1200msec out of the euivalent of three 4096-stage chips? Sure, no problem. It won’t sound expecially bright or crisp, but it also won’t sound like listening to the apartment unit next door through a pillow pressed up against the wall.

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