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    christatic
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    So i’ve got a drum loop ( a very simple 4/4 funky loop ) i created in ableton live loaded into my new 45000 and i edited the tempo text to match the tempo i exported and created the loop at. The looper seems to be only to play and keep in sync a single bar loop. How can I make my loops longer or get it to record and import longer loops and to fully play the entire loop in a synched fashion. is it possible to do such a thing or can you only record and play one bar at a time from this thing? if so this might be a deal-breaker and i might need to return it. Some clearer answers would be greatly appreciated

    #121434
    christatic
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    So I made a drum pattern one bar long and it looped that pretty well but anything over that, doesn’t seem to stay in sync. Is this thing intended for single bar loops? I was hoping i could import or at least record and playback up to 8-bar loops and either way a clearer answer would help.

    #121436

    What is the length of the drum loop that you imported into the 45000, in bars? The 45000 is capable of importing loops of varying lengths, the total length depending on the size of the SD card. The trick is that the 45000 loop time is based on the shortest .wav file that you import. So the best thing to do is to make sure all the .wav files you are importing are the same length. If you want to loop an 8 bar loop, you must be sure that all the .wav files you import are 8 bars in length.

    #121437
    christatic
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    here’s exactly what i am doing and am trying to do to help better explain the issues i am having.

    Loaded a 4 bar loop ( and nothing else mind you ) into the LOOP35 folder after i created said folder and named the drum loop file TRACKM.WAV ( cause that’s how the pre-loaded drum loops were named ) and it would not play the entire loop. It would play single bar loops though somewhat in time and longer loops would get cut off. I did not have these loops in that location at the same time as each other or as any other loops so they should of been the shortest loop in that location. Also put the tempo text in that LOOP35 folder and typed the tempo of the BPM into the appropriate spot of the TEMPO.TXT file that I exported from my DAW.

    Then tried to load the loop ( again just the single loop in there at a time ) and didn’t rename the file and press play on the location and then nothing plays.

    Tried loading a drum loop and renaming it TRACK1.WAV and again nothing would play.

    I’m only loading a single loop in each location to have my own beats to play along with and empty tracks to record to live. The only way it seems to play anything is if i load it in there and it’s re-named TRACKM.WAV and again will only play a single bar somewhat in time but the longer the loop the more is cut off and the more it “drifts” away from the timing of the clixx even though i am putting the same bpm in the Temp.txt that i exported em in, also tried adjusting the tempo.txt just in case they truly weren’t at the bpm the DAW says i’m exporting at. that did not help either. Again, i’m only loading one loop into each location cause the rest of that location is blank exactly like the pre-loaded drum loops locations i was using as a template. Also i should mention that the exports from my DAW are perfectly looped ( not getting cut off early while exporting ) and play fine in samplers and even in some media playing apps that can be set to repeat the same file over and over.

    Thank you very much for responding and sorry if i’m doing a bad job explaining my issue though and hopefully i can get if figured it out.

    #121445

    It sounds like the .wav file that you are importing into LOOP35 is a stereo file, which is why it is only working when it is called TRACKM.wav. The four track files need to be mono and the Track M file must be stereo.

    A second thing is that the 45000 needs all five .wav files to be present in a loop folder and the tempo.txt file as well. Are all the files present in LOOP35? Are they all the same length?

    #121446
    christatic
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    It sounds like the .wav file that you are importing into LOOP35 is a stereo file, which is why it is only working when it is called TRACKM.wav. The four track files need to be mono and the Track M file must be stereo.

    A second thing is that the 45000 needs all five .wav files to be present in a loop folder and the tempo.txt file as well. Are all the files present in LOOP35? Are they all the same length?

    ah i was for sure importing a stereo file which indeed why it was only working ( though not completely working imho ) if it was named TrackM.wav. it still cuts that loop short but like i said, i put the drum beat there because that’s how the preset drum loops are saved on sd card.

    like i said I put the tempo text in that LOOP35 folder and typed the tempo of the BPM into the appropriate spot of the TEMPO.TXT file that I exported from my DAW.

    I can try putting mono files into and naming em Track1.wav ect…but what i find really puzzling is that i must create blank .wav files in order to import a single loop into a location? So i need to come up with just blank filler loops in order to just have one drum loop in there and tracks to record to in the same location? In other words, i can’t import a single drum loop into a location and have empty tracks to record to? I must just export 4 additional loops of silent .wav files from my DAW and it’ll take 4 times as long as it really should imho to successfully import a single .wav file loop into a location? Sorry for asking the same question so many different ways but i’d appreciate if it was addressed before I possibly waste my time exporting silent blank filler .wav loop/files LOL! hope what i’m saying is being understood.

    #121447

    That is correct, you need to create four additional blank, filler audio files, in this case mono files, that are the exact same length as the file you are importing for TRACKM.wav. As long as all the files are the same length, then the 45000 will play the entire loop.

    You could speed up the process a little bit by making one blank mono audio file, copy that to the card, call it TRACK1.WAV. Then copy and paste this track three times within the LOOP35 folder and rename each copy: TRACK2.WAV, TRACK3.WAV and TRACK4.WAV.

    #121449
    christatic
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    SUCCESS! PLAYING AN 8 BAR LOOP PERFECTLY. I THINK I CAN SPEED THINGS UP BY LIKE YOU SAID COPYING AND PASTING ( ACTUALLY I’M ON A MAC SO IT’S EVEN QUICKER CAUSE I CAN JUST DUPLICATE ) BUT ASLO I CAN SPEED THINGS UP BY HAVING A GROUP OF BLANK .wav mono FILES AT various BPMS ALWAYS AT MY DISPOSAL

    THANKS AND SORRY IF I WAS CONFUSING. This is my first looper pedal that allows importation from a computer.

    #121451

    Great to hear it’s working now.

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