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  • #80359
    starscape
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    hi everybody,

    i’m a guitarrist and bass player from germany and i recently purchased a used older model graphic fuzz with its original power supply. everything was working fine at first but now that i had lend it to friend, it hums when switched on. the humming stays constantly even when i disconnect the input cable and it gets louder/quieter depending on distortion/eq/volume levels. it stays also when i switch the fuzz off, although there is a slight change in the sound. i tried different cables and even opened the unit to see if there is broken connection but everything seems fine
    my friend said nothing bad happened to the fuzz when he had it and he didn’t recognize any hum when he was using it. however, he said he used the power supply also to power his frequency analyser (not both at the same time) which also worked fine.
    i already measured the output of the power supply (…also tried different sockets, changed direction in the socket and moved it away from other supplies) and it reads +/- 34V. isn’t it supposed to be 40V?
    could this cause the hum? if this is the problem, how could such a output voltage drop have occured?
    any help would be much appreciated. thanks!

    cheers,
    starscape

    #109436
    The EH Man
    Moderator

    Have you tried using his Frequency Analyzer power supply on the Graphic Fuzz?

    #109441
    starscape
    Member

    No, he lost or misplaced his. That’s why he was using mine.

    #109442
    Mr.Grim
    Member

    sounds to me like a possible grounding problem. check your connections in your pedal, especially near the power jack, and also give the power supply a good look, make sure there’s no, kinks, cuts, or splits or any other defects in the wire or end.

    #109443
    starscape
    Member

    thanks for the suggestions so far, but i checked the connections and they all seem fine.
    i also unplugged all other devices sharing the same power line, one by one, except for the amp.
    the humming remains.

    #109444
    Mr.Grim
    Member

    did you look threw the rest of the pedal, especially around the jacks, for any broken connections?

    #109447
    starscape
    Member

    i’m having the pedal lying open before me and I’ve just checked the connections inside again.
    no broken cable, nothing loose, no bad soder joint

    #109448
    starscape
    Member

    what about my initial suspect concerning the ps? is 34V right or still ok.?
    otherwise, it looks fine, too. no cracks, cuts, ditches and it’s not getting hot, either.

    #109449
    The EH Man
    Moderator

    34v is a bit low but it’s not enough to cause any problems. I’d check for broken solder joints in the voltage regulation section. Check pins 8 and 4 of the 4558 for +12vdc and -13vdc respectively.

    #109459
    starscape
    Member

    thanks for the hint!
    is the 4558 chip with the number “U2” responsible for the voltage regulation?

    I guess I will also redo the solder joints of all cables…

    #109461
    The EH Man
    Moderator
    Quote:
    thanks for the hint!
    is the 4558 chip with the number “U2” responsible for the voltage regulation?

    I guess I will also redo the solder joints of all cables…

    No, it has nothing to do w/ the voltage regulation but it’s a good easy place to check the voltages.

    #109498
    starscape
    Member

    sorry, the one i meant is U7, not U2.
    i just wanted to make sure I pick the right one of the 6 4558 chips.
    well, on U7 it reads -13V at pin 4 and 6.7 – 6.75 at pin 8

    #109502
    The EH Man
    Moderator

    That’s low. You’ve got some problems in the voltage regulation section, I’d say.
    You should get it to a tech.

    #109504
    starscape
    Member

    Thanks very much EH Man and Mr. Grim for the help!
    I still wonder what caused the problem though…

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