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  • #80288
    LOOPMAN
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    Could someone help me to understanding the right use and function of the 3 outputs of my Flanger Hoax?
    The first one,”Direct OUT” is uneffected I guess,the “Blended Out” is controlled from the Blend control knob and the Effect Output jack is linked to the Feedback controls.
    Well,I’ve noticed that if I use only the Blended Out I have a kind of result,let’s say that I listen to a weaker sound intensity,instead,if I use the Effect Out togheter with Blended Out jack I liten to a thicker sound.
    I need to understand more about these 3 outs of the FH,
    waiting for your suggestions..

    #102994
    diegoarts
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    i’d say that the direct and effect output are best for stereo use. this way, the stereo effect is most impressive.
    if you don’t want that fixed, you can use the blend and effect output. this way you can add some effect to the blend output channel, also the stereo effect might get lost a bit this way.

    the blend output on it’s own is for mono use, as you can mix direct and effected sound with it.

    if you happen to have a micro-mixer on your board, you could do this blending also with direct and effect output via your mixer – but the effect should be almost the same as with the blended knob.

    so – stereo : effect + direct output (left + right) -> mono : blended output.

    hope, this helped.

    and if you’re wondering: in stereo use it’s a great plus to have one side uneffected in phasing and flanging, coz your signal never totally fades out or gets too quiet in the mix. also, the stereo effect this way is pretty dramatic. i own a flying pan and one of the best sounds in there is just to dial the phasing effect to either right or left channel – sonic bliss!

    best regards
    diego

    #102937
    LOOPMAN
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    Diego,I’ll try everything.
    If I send the signal that comes out from the Blend Out and the Effect Out jacks to the 2 inputs of the EH Cathedral Stereo Reverb,what would happen?I keep a mono or a stereo signal?

    thank you for all

    #102924
    diegoarts
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    Hey Loopman,

    i don’t own a Cathedral, but i imagine it’s TRUE stereo, therefor the signal should stay seperate/stereo.
    although – remember: if you use the effect AND the BLEND output, the stereo signal depends on your setting on the blend knob. a wet setting there will reduce the stereo effect! a more dryer setting will give you a better stereo image.

    REMEMBER: the FH is not true stereo. you are only able to get a pseudo-stereo effect by sending a wet signal to one and the dry / or blended signal with a decent amount of dry signal to another speaker/amp.

    try this – if you can – via headphones: effect output left, blended output right. then play something and move the blend knob from dry to wet slowly. you may hear the change in stereo field.
    be aware, that this can sound pretty strange on headphones if the wet sound is at an extreme setting. this is mostly because the effected signal is much quieter than the dry signal. if you have a chance to balance that difference in volume, your stereo effect will sound really good.

    This way, i am able to get a really realistic stereo thru-zero tape flange. on one channel the flanged effect will go over the top and nullify the signal, while on the other channel it’s still present. so the overall effect is a kind of a panned thru-zero tape flange! try this – amazing!

    hope, this wasn’t to complicated!

    to put it in a nutshell: just fool around! :-)

    diego

    #102718
    LOOPMAN
    Member

    Hi Diego,
    in this last example when you say:”….This way, i am able to get a really realistic stereo thru-zero tape flange. on one channel the flanged…” do you mean that on one channel you apply the EFFECT OUT and on the other one do you apply the Blended Out?do u mean this?

    thanks a lot

    #106810
    diegoarts
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    the main thing is – you need an effected output on one side and a rather dry signal an the other channel.
    so the combinations might be:
    a) effected + direct
    b) effected + blended (with blended rather dry, so ccw)
    c) direct + blended (with blended rather wet, so cw)

    important is a rather dry on one side vs. a rather wet signal on the other side.

    really, try it and you will get what i mean!

    in implementing the blended output you’re able to “finetune” your setting in either b) or c). this might help in big volume differences.

    but – remember: blended knob full ccw is dry signal – no effect this way. and full cw is wet signal. effected output with full blended output will give you no stereo image as the output signal is the same on both channels.

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