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June 15, 2010 at 4:23 pm #109462bill ruppertParticipant
Using the pedal in stereo creates a depth or space to the sound that can not be created in mono.
Applications are ANY recording or using two amps spit apart by several feet.
The stereo spread in the cathedral is the widest I have ever heard.
It almost sounds 3D to my ear.
BillQuote:Quote:Hey friedjesseradio,Thanks man!
The Cathedral is even better.
Any hall setting will work.
The Cathedral in stereo is amazing!
BillQuote:hey bill, the cello you have made is probably one of the most inspiring sounds toward guitar that i have ever heard. unfortunately i dont have a hog or any reverb. if i did, i would be all over that mother!one thing though, if i am gonna get a reverb, its mos def gonna be a cathedral. can you transpose the holiest grail settings over to a cathedral please
i dont understand this whole stereo thing for the cathedral is. i know what stereo is but whats some cool application for it?
June 23, 2010 at 5:05 pm #109759darcParticipantThe POG2 arrived, and thus far I’m very impressed. Tracking is even better than I’d hoped.
Right out of the gates I zeroed in on reasonably convincing double bass and cello tones. Violins seem slightly out of reach, but I expected that they would be. There’s a lot of complexity in high-register bow/string noise, etc. that I don’t imagine I’ll get. If anyone has any ideas, or has had any success in approximating violin, I’m all ears.
Similarly, full string sections are probably too ambitious, (without running multiple signal paths through a fortune in pedals LOL.) Something comparable to FM synth strings is acheivable, but here the distinction between strings and organ gets pretty blurry.
I was surprised at how much potential there is for woodwinds/reeds/etc. I’m getting sounds reminiscnent (in varying degrees) of flute, oboe, picollo, even Bill’s Uilleann Pipes. And what’s so great is that you can really imbue these with character by using extended techniques e.g. reverse ghost bends with a whammy, etc… all the things that make MIDI very unhappy. I feel like I can *play the instrument* again!
So, having fun, interested in thoughts on violin, and now looking forward to the new EHX Freeze pedal!
June 23, 2010 at 9:20 pm #109766CryabetesParticipantQuote:Right out of the gates I zeroed in on reasonably convincing double bass and cello tones. Violins seem slightly out of reach, but I expected that they would be. There’s a lot of complexity in high-register bow/string noise, etc. that I don’t imagine I’ll get. If anyone has any ideas, or has had any success in approximating violin, I’m all ears.student-grade cello bow.
they’re about $60. rosin is about $7.
it’s a pretty convincing way to do the violin stuff on guitar.June 24, 2010 at 1:48 pm #109773darcParticipantHey Cryabetes,
This is the second time you posted to this effect, so I decided I ought to pay some attention. I listened to some bow-on-guitar on youtube and a few clips did really impress me! I hadn’t seen bow on guitar since the famous/infamous Jimmy Page performance, which I always thought was a little lame (i.e. well-deserving of the Spinal Tap violin-on-guitar parody.) But, you’re right, some folks really are getting convincing violin from guitar/bow/modern gain. I’m ordering a bow today!
I still won’t be able to layer guitar and strings in a single live pass – I’ll probably have to rely on MIDI for that.
June 27, 2010 at 1:51 am #109841darcParticipantSo, yeah… working with my new bow tonight. Some very interesting sounds happening, but I’m thinking this is not going to be a real practical solution for me. Something I hadn’t considered: rosin is very sticky. Get it just about anywhere on your strings and/or fingerboard and the guitar is a mess/ no longer much fun to play. If I were to keep a little stunt guitar off to the side just for this purpose, then maybe, but I don’t realistically see that happening.
Back to the drawing board. (And off to change these strings LOL.)
October 6, 2011 at 4:53 pm #116106aaronharmonParticipantIt occurred to me that I could get the same effect using the Ring Thing to tune down and a POG to change the attack. What do you think? What order should I put them in?
also, would you mind posting the tab for that, it was killer.
October 7, 2011 at 12:30 pm #116110CryabetesParticipantchange the tuning before you change the ADSR. ring thing into POG.
October 11, 2011 at 3:57 pm #116108bill ruppertParticipantSure try it!
Ring thing into POD2.
Experiment with different pick ups and your guitars tone control.
Sorry no TAB on the song.Quote:It occurred to me that I could get the same effect using the Ring Thing to tune down and a POG to change the attack. What do you think? What order should I put them in?also, would you mind posting the tab for that, it was killer.
December 28, 2012 at 2:59 am #118577HadzMemberQuestion directed at Bill Ruppert, but any input is appreciated. I am in search of the ultimate guitar-tranformed-into-cello sound. Bill used a Hog for his effectology piece, but since the Hog is now discontinued…which box would get me closest…the POG2 or the MicroSynth ??? or something else ???
February 26, 2013 at 5:01 pm #118792bill ruppertParticipantHOG2 now!
Quote:Question directed at Bill Ruppert, but any input is appreciated. I am in search of the ultimate guitar-tranformed-into-cello sound. Bill used a Hog for his effectology piece, but since the Hog is now discontinued…which box would get me closest…the POG2 or the MicroSynth ??? or something else ???November 11, 2013 at 8:36 am #119488TazmanMemberhey Bill, had a question, I have the hog 2 and it comes with a different foot pedal, I have no tuning know on the side and it is a pedal as you know stays always flat unless you press it and hold it, so I see your in pitch bending and instead of moving the pedal if I understand this correct the knob on the side holds the pedal in what ever position you set the know to, so would I need to get a pedal like that or is there a way to do the same with the hog 2 pedal. also I need to by a reverb, would the Cathedral work as well as the holiest grail ? lastly I see you use the memory man for some stuff, is that like a delay pedal, if so I use a VOX Joe Satriani Time Machine , actually I have 2 , for twin delay effects, is the time machine as good as the memory man, or are they completely different pedals
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