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  • August 13, 2010 at 7:44 pm #80608
    Eclipse
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    I got an Echo 1 yesterday specifically for use with a circa 1979 Roland Jupiter 4 synthesizer, HOWEVER it seems whenever I connect it to ANYTHING Roland or Boss (so far the Jupiter & a Boss pedal board full of various) what I get is a sudden NOISE problem . . . sort of like . . . there were BOTH a cable somewhere barely/intermittently making contact & . . . maybe that there was some sort of “signal leak” that gets to be SERIOUSLY amplified ONLY when the EHX pedal is included?

    I am getting ready to try round 2 of trying to track this down, for instance hooking it to an old Micromoog from 1978 and a Roland GAIA SH-201 from circa July 2010, changing out EVERY SINGLE cable, the strip outlet, making CERTAIN that ANY florescent lighting is OFF in the building . . . roughly EVERYTHING BUT the air conditioning, it’s 105 out there, it IS NOT gonna “happen”!!!

    BUT THE PEDAL WORKS JUST FINE BY IT’S LONESOME???

    Um…?

    WHAT?

    Yeah, and so does everything else . . . The Boss pedal board works fine as does the synth, however the pedals are more “guitar”, and the local music store didn’t have (& is switching to EHX from) a Boss delay, so I got this & a pretty instant headache . . . and just in case you’re going “AH-HA!”, the answer is “No, none of the Boss pedals were on, so it’s not a case of multiple guitar distortion pedals set to “Soundtrack for an Armageddon”, just connecting things AT ALL seems to do WHATEVER. . .

    What else? Possibly the EHX pedal in question is itself heating up when left plugged in, as in to the touch?

    Right now the answer seems to be, un-powered things by makers like Gibson or Fender work fine, but things with power supplies . . .?

    Is this maybe some sort of power supply “conflict” with polarity, phase or some other difference that could maybe be taken care of with a shielded cable ? ? ?

    Because, right now, it’s looking like unless this can be taken care of or it will work with the Moog or much newer Roland I’m going to have to haul the pedal and pedal board across town to see about re-creating this and a refund or exchange . . .

    Which is really sort of a shame, being that I used to have a bunch of EHX pedals that I REALLY begrudgingly sold off back in the semi-early 80’s because a pedal board with just ONE wall-wart power supply was A LOT LESS of a headache, & well, EHX sort of “vanished” for a while . . .

    August 13, 2010 at 11:05 pm #110866
    Eclipse
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    “isolation from RF interference such as computers”?

    Bingo!

    Once in every blue moon STRANGE things can and will happen, such as the combination and LOCATION of a Gibson Marauder, some Peavy amp and Ross stomp box being able to not just pick up the truckers radio but to some extent be heard on their radios someone told me about that happened to them back in 1982 when they lived near a cement yard . . .

    Sitting there cursing this noise issue this afternoon I noticed three things about it all, that it seemed to have something of a back ground modulation, that a few minutes after each of the arrivals of the returning Collage Students next door this background ‘eep-weeep-weeep’ seemed to get more frequent, AND that they seemed to be wandering all over their yard with wireless things checking signal . . .

    It seems that RF shielding WASN’T the sort of issue back in the 1970’s and perhaps early 1980’s that it is now, ESPECIALLY if you have your equipment set up, as it turned LESS THAN 12 feet away from where four students all have one wireless modem splitting into four other wireless routers/hubs for each or their computers, as well as three of them splitting that into other wireless things for X-Box, Playstation 3 and something else, all so that all told they have “juice” to play games and share music and video with their buddies FOUR HOUSES AWAY . . . oh, and one of them loves to tinker on computers with their cases open in this very same room

    So, at the cost of a broken spine from hauling six amplifiers, five synthesizers, four guitars, four bass’ and roughly a laundry basket of various effects into another room some 20 feet away, a few new “computer quality” surge protectors, two shielded cables and two new SHIELDED inter-effect connectors …

    SOLVED!

    August 23, 2010 at 2:41 am #111029
    efilho
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    Brilliant!

    I was crackin’ up reading this post!

    Glad You found your alchemical solution!!!!

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