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  • #97236
    danhappysalad
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    I came across a pedal that sounds like it can do this today; the Eventide Pitchfactor. But it costs a fortune because it does a million other things as well – harmonies, delays, synth, you name it!

    I’m not sure I’d want something so complicated on my board, I think there’s something to be said for Jack White’s philosophy of working within narrow constraints. He never went wrong with a whammy and a big muff did he?

    Please can I just have a drop-tune pedal haha

    #97585
    casamia
    Participant

    Maybe there could be some sort of ehx guitar along the lines of the moog guitar only nicer lookin and with inbuilt tuning junk for all kinds of tuning madness at the flick of a switch or the turn of a dial. seems unlikely but one can dream

    #97596
    ORKofStomp
    Member

    Holy Stain for dropping?

    #97604
    freshchops
    Member

    Great Idea! I’d be in for one, if it could be pulled off without stripping tone or getting to digitized sounding. I also like the idea alt tuning in in partial notes.

    How does the Holy Stain sound with the Pitch Bending? The 2880 looper does a great job with the pitch shifts through the “tempo” slider and uniquely, moves in full measure note increments, so I know EHX could pull it off. The only issue might be something as particular as quarter note increment tuning in an EHX box would be a lack of a LED screen or something equivalent. I imagine it could still be done with incrimental knob movements, but it might be something you may want to start programming your unique tunings to as presets, que-able by an LED screen, perhaps?

    #97606
    julian
    Moderator

    With EH’s pitch shifters, the tone is pretty natural sounding when you pitch shift less than an octave.

    #99279
    m0jo
    Member

    Loving this!! :clap:

    Only: you should be able to select the amount of drop, no fannying around with sliders or anything please!
    A knob with 4 detents would allow you to use the travel between and have the precise steps down.

    #99704
    ghost
    Member

    I have no idea, BUT…

    Drop Tune pedal:

    http://www.morpheusefx.com/

    #99716
    WatsonWood
    Member

    Ghost, thanks for the info! And here is a demo of the DTP at NAMM. Looks like it’s a done thing, and sounds pretty good on the first few half-steps down:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcDvSq1pFjA

    The Sweetwater.com site is advertising this pedal at 199 USD I believe. This could sound pretty cool with the Deagan Electravibe!

    #99717
    m0jo
    Member

    What a lot of people forget is that when you tune down for real, your guitar reacts very differently.

    For instance my Ibanez S has a pretty hard rock type of sound normally, but when I drop-D or tune down the wood gives me much more deepness and a warmer bottom end. It’s not the tuning! it’s the resonance of the wood!

    But if you play an hour long set with one downtuned song, yeah a pedal would be the way to go. ;)

    #99718
    electro-melx
    Moderator
    Quote:
    What a lot of people forget is that when you tune down for real, your guitar reacts very differently.

    For instance my Ibanez S has a pretty hard rock type of sound normally, but when I drop-D or tune down the wood gives me much more deepness and a warmer bottom end. It’s not the tuning! it’s the resonance of the wood!

    But if you play an hour long set with one downtuned song, yeah a pedal would be the way to go. ;)

    I’ve taken to tuning a half-step down all the time these days (to F#) I like what it does to my tone overall. I don’t know if it’s because the strings are a little looser (I play 11’s) but it really seems to make my guitar come ‘alive’ for some reason.

    #99719
    WatsonWood
    Member
    Quote:
    Quote:
    What a lot of people forget is that when you tune down for real, your guitar reacts very differently.

    For instance my Ibanez S has a pretty hard rock type of sound normally, but when I drop-D or tune down the wood gives me much more deepness and a warmer bottom end. It’s not the tuning! it’s the resonance of the wood!

    But if you play an hour long set with one downtuned song, yeah a pedal would be the way to go. ;)

    I’ve taken to tuning a half-step down all the time these days (to F#) I like what it does to my tone overall. I don’t know if it’s because the strings are a little looser (I play 11’s) but it really seems to make my guitar come ‘alive’ for some reason.

    So, check out this pedal! OK, it is not an EHX, but if Morpheus can bring one out, then EHX can certainly go one half-step better!!

    #99721
    m0jo
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    Quote:
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    What a lot of people forget is that when you tune down for real, your guitar reacts very differently.

    For instance my Ibanez S has a pretty hard rock type of sound normally, but when I drop-D or tune down the wood gives me much more deepness and a warmer bottom end. It’s not the tuning! it’s the resonance of the wood!

    But if you play an hour long set with one downtuned song, yeah a pedal would be the way to go. ;)

    I’ve taken to tuning a half-step down all the time these days (to F#) I like what it does to my tone overall. I don’t know if it’s because the strings are a little looser (I play 11’s) but it really seems to make my guitar come ‘alive’ for some reason.

    Well yes, my Ibanez seems to love the lower tunings, not that it turns instant-metal but just there seems to be more harmonics going on.

    The other part is the feel, the looser strings.. well I like it as long as it doesn’t gat flappy and noisy. I play .010-.052 strings. :)

    #99722
    m0jo
    Member
    Quote:
    Quote:
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    What a lot of people forget is that when you tune down for real, your guitar reacts very differently.

    For instance my Ibanez S has a pretty hard rock type of sound normally, but when I drop-D or tune down the wood gives me much more deepness and a warmer bottom end. It’s not the tuning! it’s the resonance of the wood!

    But if you play an hour long set with one downtuned song, yeah a pedal would be the way to go. ;)

    I’ve taken to tuning a half-step down all the time these days (to F#) I like what it does to my tone overall. I don’t know if it’s because the strings are a little looser (I play 11’s) but it really seems to make my guitar come ‘alive’ for some reason.

    So, check out this pedal! OK, it is not an EHX, but if Morpheus can bring one out, then EHX can certainly go one half-step better!!

    Please re-read my post and electro-melx’s …

    We’re saying that tuning down for real brings out very pleasing qualities in the guitar. (it must be said: not in all guitars, my swamp ash strat turns all buzzy on me ;) ) So the pedal is counter-productive in that sense.

    I do think the Morpheus pedal is a good idea.. but there are a few aspects already that I don’t like:
    – Too big! there’s 9 LEDs on it.. it could easily be XO or nano size
    – 3 footswitches are superfluous, even if you were to switch tunings during a song .. how long is the song that you need more than 2 tunings? (original/dropped)
    – It doesn’t look very high-quality to me, but I can’t really judge that since I haven’t held it in my own hands.

    #99725
    WatsonWood
    Member

    All is duly re-read, but I sussed first time. Since our topic is not drop tuning but a “Drop Tune Pedal Idea” I considered the Morpheus really interesting and worthy of further mention since it is the first commercialised pedal to appear on the market as far as I know. At least in this price range. I found the demo on YouTube good enough for me to want to try the pedal out as soon as possible. Then I can hear if the pedal delivers or not.
    This said, the pedal will definitely not be able to deliver the pure sound of a good baritone or open-tuning guitar…

    #99726
    m0jo
    Member
    Quote:
    All is duly re-read, but I sussed first time. Since our topic is not drop tuning but a “Drop Tune Pedal Idea” I considered the Morpheus really interesting and worthy of further mention since it is the first commercialised pedal to appear on the market as far as I know. At least in this price range. I found the demo on YouTube good enough for me to want to try the pedal out as soon as possible. Then I can hear if the pedal delivers or not.
    This said, the pedal will definitely not be able to deliver the pure sound of a good baritone or open-tuning guitar…

    Yes I understand the relevance of your post to the topic, but you quoted my and melx’s posts .. which where about the pure sound of downtuning. ;)

    It is great that at least someone made a drop-tune pedal, somehow pedal companies first need some obscure company to start it off before trying their own.. I hope EHX does try their hand at this, I think they can make the pedal the way it should be: simple and very effective.

    Is there actually a price known for the Drop-Tune?

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