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May 6, 2010 at 8:02 am #80190diegoartsMember
So, i finally got my DMB! Ever since i read about it i thought of getting one. The vids on youtube and EHX.com sold me.
I will write a more detailed review the next days, coz i only fooled around yesterday for a few hours.
Overall it’s a great pedal so far – the features are enormous for an analog pedal.
BUT: there are two or three things in this pedal i don’t like that much and maybe someone can help me with that:
1. maybe the most drawback in the DMB for me is, that the delayed “wet” signal seems to “duck” under the dry signal. i mean, of course analoge wet signal is less prominent than your dry signal, but the delays wont come thru enough for me – even when you turn up the blend knob. there’s a point, when the wet signal is equal with the dry one, but still the repeats sound just like there’s a gate somewhere.
Q: A. is there something like a gate? B. is this effect changeable? Can i have more prominent repeats?2. low cut mode: i heard it in vids and so i was not surprised: if you cut the basses (rate knob cw) the signal gets brighter, less bassier – thats great. strange is, that there’s a lot less feedback in this sound AND the pedal hardly gets into self oscillation. no problem if you know this, but still strange.
3. modulation: of course, the depth is very extreme and it’s not that easy to just set a small chorussy sound here. still it’s possible, but hard. not a big problem. but – softer modulation tones are not very present – mainly because of 1. – the repeats duck too much under the dry tone imho, so the modulated signal gets lost in the overall sound too much.
don’t get me wrong – i still love this pedal so far. i just think, the positive aspects in the DMB are well known – you read and here about in the vids.
more to come!
cheers
diego
May 6, 2010 at 7:31 pm #105148Paco (EHX staff)Memberregarding the low cut feedback. when you turn up the low cut, you are decreasing the overall signal getting fed back. you can adjust for this by turning the blend up a little, and turning up the gain a bit.
May 7, 2010 at 8:58 am #104853diegoartsMemberthanks Paco.
yes, the feedback issue is not worse, just funny – as there’s so much less feedback and selfoscillation if lowcut is introduced.
bigger problem or issue is the gating. i made a small demo i’ll maybe put up here tomorrow. if you turn delay all the way down and blend to full wet, then strumm a chord you’ll hear what i mean. not, that this setting is practible in any way, it’s just to get a impression of how dramatic the ducking/gating of the wet signal can get in the DXMB. it would be VERY useful, if one could tame this effect – sometimes it’s very useful, but with an analog signal – which isn’t that prominent in the mix anyway – it is not that practical imho.
so – if there’s a way to tame this effect – easily – it would be a gas!and don’t get me wrong – i played around with this pedal yesterday for hours – it’s fantastic sounding for this price!
the features in this little box are amazing. and the lowcut – although it steals some of your feedback – is really great!
someone recommended a little verb after the DXMB – sonic bliss! and – it sounds better with a more grittier not too clean guitar tone! i’m sure – if the wet signal could be a bit more prominent, you could get fantastic 80ies delays (think a flock of seagulls – which i love!).
any recommendations would be very wellcome!
best regards
diego
May 7, 2010 at 1:36 pm #104730Paco (EHX staff)Memberhey Diego,
regarding the gating noise, most analog delays feature some kind of circuitry to minimize noise. the DXMB has similar circuitry. however the effect is most prominent on the first note you play after a long silence, so your 2nd and 3rd notes etc… should not sound as gated as the first.
i’ve heard of some people putting eq’s in the feedback loop to tailor the wet sound a little more, might be worth a try.
May 10, 2010 at 7:40 am #104338diegoartsMemberHmmm. interesting idea. i’ll try to get a cheap EQ and test this. maybe even might get a small and cheap comp-effect for the loop – could help as well.
thanks for the hints.
BUT – so there is no other way to change the heavy gating permanently?
greetings
diego
May 18, 2010 at 8:23 am #109290diegoartsMemberSo, i put my LPB2ube in the FX loop of the DXMB and it’s a gas! it really helps in so many ways. your delayed signal becomes louder and clearer, there are more repeats possible (pre-selfosscilation) and of course it helps in the oscillation itself. plus: you can turn the blend knob down a bit. your delay signal don’t have to be (much) louder than your original to still hear it.
i now will try to get a small, cheap EQ-booster, which will stay permanently in the loop. haven’t tried a comp yet, but will soon.
anyway – the ducking/gate is very strong in my opinion. it would be great if one could dial in a smaller amount of gating permanently. is this possible?!?! maybe not. no reply to this so far.
it’s also audible, that a boosted signal is more gated/ducked than a clean signal.
the booster in the loop helps a lot. put a cheap phaser after that and it’s sonic heaven. great sounds!
for the modulation – it goes very fast into very extreme settings. you have to keep it really low to get chorussy/flangey tones. one way around this problem of course is put in a expression pedal, dial in the highest amount of modulation depth you can live with and then take the EP to dial in inbetween mod depth! fine tune as you may say! works great!
diego
June 8, 2010 at 6:12 pm #102243hundirlaflotaMemberHi,
I’m enjoying a lot the DMB.
Anyway, I’ve noticed a bit of distortion when strumming a clean chord with the delay engaged.
Not much, but it’s a bit annoying.
Anyway, great pedal and very funny with an expression pedal plugged to it!
Best Regards
PFebruary 9, 2011 at 5:48 pm #114209C.J.ParticipantOkay, so I got a DMB after seeing the new DMMTT and, like so many, thinking how similar they seem in features.
I’ve been using a carbon copy for about a year, and I have to say that i like the DMB “just okay”.
the tap tempo is kind of funny…i find that my timing isn’t exactly perfect, so i hear a lot of pitch goofing as i set the tempo while the effect is on. that’s okay; i kind of imagine that’s how any tap-tempo delay would react.
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I have one major issue.
if you set it to a long delay, or lots of feedback, and you switch the pedal off while it’s repeating, it stops dead. okay, nothing unexpected there. but if you turn the pedal back on, IT’S STILL REPEATING!
that doesn’t seem very functional to me. especially if you botch the part you’re playing, and it repeats an awful atonal note or slur for a really long time…there is no way to KILL the repeats, and then quickly turn the pedal back on to try again – because when you turn it back on, it’s still going. you just have to wait for it to dwindle down to nothing.
maybe mine is just messed up…but that seems like a real anti-feature
February 9, 2011 at 10:39 pm #114211CryabetesParticipanthave you tried putting a volume pedal or other muting device [ie, distortion pedal with everything set to ‘0’] in the fx loop? that should kill the repeats, as long as its muting for as long as the delay time.
February 10, 2011 at 12:40 am #114216C.J.Participanti guess that seems like a taking the long way home, plus it doesn’t really accomplish the task.
i hate to say it, but my carbon copy is staying put because it just works better.
February 10, 2011 at 4:03 pm #114223TheGhostMachinaMemberIf you use an expression pedal set to control feedback, you can turn the feedback down after the effect is off to kill the trails before turning the effect back on. I thought the same as you when I first got my DMB. Then I realized how much I was juicing the feedback.
TGM
February 10, 2011 at 8:06 pm #114228C.J.ParticipantSo this is just how it works?
bummer.
i don’t want to have to dance to make the effect do what my carbon copy does with a simple click.
the added control of every parameter, effects loop, expression pedal, tap tempo, tap divide, modulation control…. all of that is just not enough to make up for this issue. i guess simpler is better. plus the mxr pedal will run off a one-spot without heinous noise.
i’ll keep the DMB on hand to see if maybe i can use it for something, but sadly, it’s probably going to end up on eBay.
February 10, 2011 at 8:42 pm #114229CryabetesParticipantactually with a mute pedal in the FX loop, you’d essentially be turning off the effect solely with that; if it were a volume pedal, you could fade in the repeats and keep them at the level you want with that.
Don’t get me wrong, having control over every parameter isn’t for everyone- some people just want a simple sound.February 13, 2011 at 2:22 am #114256TheGhostMachinaMemberThx Cryabetes, the volumn pedal in the FX loop will do the same as an expression set to feedback. I do this so I have control over both feedback (volumn in FX loop) and mod rate (expression).
The DMB replaced my Boss DD-20, Boss DD-3, and Boss SDE-300, cause it can do it all, and doesn’t have that ‘Boss’ sound. But you are right, total control isn’t for everyone. My day job is Sound Tech at a professional production company, so I spend all my time tweaking knobs and throwing faders. I like total control:)
TGM
February 13, 2011 at 2:41 am #114258melxMemberQuote:I have one major issue.if you set it to a long delay, or lots of feedback, and you switch the pedal off while it’s repeating, it stops dead. okay, nothing unexpected there. but if you turn the pedal back on, IT’S STILL REPEATING!
that doesn’t seem very functional to me. especially if you botch the part you’re playing, and it repeats an awful atonal note or slur for a really long time…there is no way to KILL the repeats, and then quickly turn the pedal back on to try again – because when you turn it back on, it’s still going. you just have to wait for it to dwindle down to nothing.
maybe mine is just messed up…but that seems like a real anti-feature
when you bypass it the circuit is still doing what it was doing before (ie in the same state electronically) it’s just the circuit is not in your signal path. This seems logical and expected to me…. The only way to stop it would be to kill the power to the circuit with a switch as the delay is self oscillating ….. or turn the feedback down.
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