There shouldn’t be a big difference, I’d try both (if you can) and get whichever you prefer.

I don’t know if there’s the same volume issue but transformer noise hasn’t been an issue that I can recall.

I’m assuming you bought the older one? I currently have a reissue “no transformer” dem and love it but it also has a huge volume drop. I’ve also been thinking about getting an older one…only if they sound more like the original electric mistress with the SAD1024 IC. Does anyone know what the difference between the old green and black dem with transformer and the transitional silver and black? When did they quit using the Reticon IC. Also, Ron could you please tell us the secret resistor, I assume, to change to fix the volume drop. I’ve looked everywhere and can’t find ANY listed diy mods to the dem. I’ve found plenty of mods for the original em along with the volume drop mod. Mine also has a good bit of clock noise or ticking that’s in time with the rate pot that get pretty annoying. I will say that whatever pedals before and after the dem has a pretty good, or bad, impact on the dem. You need to find where it works best. I’d also like to mod mine with a wet/dry or level control along with led.

On another note, I just received a paypal invoice for Ron Neely at Ronsound also know as The EH Man here. It’s an invoice for an original electric mistress that needed repairs that I couldn’t do. The invoice is kinda cheaper than I expected…..I’m praying you got it working good Ron as I was just about to buy another one!

What kind of ground noise?? Mine isn’t near noisy enough to use a noise gate. Then again I don’t use gates really. Probably should with all the muff”s on my board. There’s definately a noticeable drop on mine. Especially when playing it with a muff DG style. Right now I have it in a blend loop and when I bypass it there’s a noticeable increase in sound and noticeable drop in sound when engaged. I’m using a quality blend too. The barge concepts vbjr….it could use a level knob though. I’m working on a blender similar to xotic effects x blender now though which uses tl074’s as buffers and also has blend, volume, phase and 3 section eq. I hope it works!

Your first post was asking about the newer RI’s vs. the older dem’s with internal transformer. If I would’ve known that I would’ve told you to jump on it….considering the price and condition. They’re pretty much collectable’s and is known as one, if not, the best flanger produced. The DEM RI “newer” sounds similar but there’s definately a difference in sound from the many users I’ve talked too as well as sound samples. David Gilmour used this pedal extensively thoughout the wall and more so during the the wall tour.I should have mine within the next couple days and I’ll compare it to my newer dem ri. I had the eh man fix it as well as add true bypass and fix the volume drop. Figured I might as well have him do the volume mod while he was in there.