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  • #112241
    fantomenos
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    So what is the point of having a help/technical questions section at all? It seems like all that goes on here is customers complaining that this isn’t tech support, and moderators complaining that they’re not paid to be tech support. If we’re not allowed to ask questions about the technical aspects of EH pedals here, what exactly is supposed to go on?

    Our ‘job’ as admin is to keep the forum spam free, moderate any inappropriate content and keep the forum chugging along for it’s users (including ourselves). It is not our job to answer any questions about anything, we do help when we can, just like any other forum member would.

    I wish there were a member of EHX tech support logged in at all times to answer questions here but there isn’t…. and if a forum member (admin or otherwise) can’t help you will told to contact EHX, that’s not always the ideal solution but it’s the only one we have to offer. I don’t like that fact anymore than you do, but there’s nothing we can do about it.

    It’s not that we are moaning about not being paid to be tech support, we aren’t tech support.. most of us are just musicians and effects users with little technical knowledge especially on new products that most of us don’t even own. You can ask whatever technical questions you like here and sometimes another member may be able to answer, but that’s as far as it goes. If you don’t like the answer you get that’s kinda tough, it’s an open forum not EHX tech support.

    But you have to get why this can be a problem. I don’t envy you your job, and I get that you guys aren’t techies, but it seems like the postings here get one of three responses:

    a) That question is too easy, do your own research, you’re an idiot. (see above).

    b) That question is too hard, contact EH, we can’t possibly help, you’re an idiot.

    c) No response at all, which is arguably worse.

    My point is that this is the first hit when you google “electro-harmonix technical support”, so acting indignant when people come here expecting technical support won’t hold water, and makes for really bad customer relations.

    I don’t want to sound totally negative here, I love these forums, learning about the things people are using the pedals for, pedalboard pics, etc. But, lurking in this corner of the forum makes it clear that this is the last place anyone should go if they expect Help/Technical Questions, and the 1st place they should go if they want to be insulted (and really, I can get insulted online in lots of places…).

    #112242
    electro-melx
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    So what is the point of having a help/technical questions section at all? It seems like all that goes on here is customers complaining that this isn’t tech support, and moderators complaining that they’re not paid to be tech support. If we’re not allowed to ask questions about the technical aspects of EH pedals here, what exactly is supposed to go on?

    Our ‘job’ as admin is to keep the forum spam free, moderate any inappropriate content and keep the forum chugging along for it’s users (including ourselves). It is not our job to answer any questions about anything, we do help when we can, just like any other forum member would.

    I wish there were a member of EHX tech support logged in at all times to answer questions here but there isn’t…. and if a forum member (admin or otherwise) can’t help you will told to contact EHX, that’s not always the ideal solution but it’s the only one we have to offer. I don’t like that fact anymore than you do, but there’s nothing we can do about it.

    It’s not that we are moaning about not being paid to be tech support, we aren’t tech support.. most of us are just musicians and effects users with little technical knowledge especially on new products that most of us don’t even own. You can ask whatever technical questions you like here and sometimes another member may be able to answer, but that’s as far as it goes. If you don’t like the answer you get that’s kinda tough, it’s an open forum not EHX tech support.

    But you have to get why this can be a problem. I don’t envy you your job, and I get that you guys aren’t techies, but it seems like the postings here get one of three responses:

    a) That question is too easy, do your own research, you’re an idiot. (see above).

    b) That question is too hard, contact EH, we can’t possibly help, you’re an idiot.

    c) No response at all, which is arguably worse.

    My point is that this is the first hit when you google “electro-harmonix technical support”, so acting indignant when people come here expecting technical support won’t hold water, and makes for really bad customer relations.

    I don’t want to sound totally negative here, I love these forums, learning about the things people are using the pedals for, pedalboard pics, etc. But, lurking in this corner of the forum makes it clear that this is the last place anyone should go if they expect Help/Technical Questions, and the 1st place they should go if they want to be insulted (and really, I can get insulted online in lots of places…).

    …. of course I get it and like I said I don’t like it anymore than anyone else. I noticed there were 2 members of EHX staff logged in earlier, did they answer any questions? no, they didn’t. We are as frustrated as you about that… I’m not going to say that I think people should expect to be insulted but you have to understand our frustrations too. If we didn’t answer nobody would, I’m getting pretty sick of telling people to contact ehx myself, I come here for fun, to chat about effects and to enjoy it, not to keep telling people what power supply to use… and even worse people expecting me to know and tell them… I don’t know off hand usually so I have to visit the New Sensor website or Hotrox or whatever to find out myself, then come back here and tell them!

    When this forum was set up, I think we all expected EHX staff to be more active but for whatever reason they aren’t.

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    My point is that this is the first hit when you google “electro-harmonix technical support”, so acting indignant when people come here expecting technical support won’t hold water, and makes for really bad customer relations.

    That’s a matter you need to take up with EHX, Forum members and Volunteer Admin are not “electro-harmonix technical support” or “EHX customer relations personel” whatever google might say!! …. contact EHX, try their email. ;)

    #112243
    Mr.Grim
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    its just that this is called “technical questions” not necessarily “EHX tech support” there is a small difference, you should expect to hear from fellow users with sum knowledge not actual EHX tech support.

    and it just gets annoying seeing the newbie every other day asking the same question as the last person, dont people use the search option and find the answers all ready posted before asking?!?! i do.

    and yes “moderators are only here to make sure we play nice together, there not actual EHX staff.

    #112244
    electro-melx
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    its just that this is called “technical questions” not necessarily “EHX tech support” there is a small difference, you should expect to hear from fellow users with sum knowledge not actual EHX tech support.

    and it just gets annoying seeing the newbie every other day asking the same question as the last person, dont people use the search option and find the answers all ready posted before asking?!?! i do.

    and yes “moderators are only here to make sure we play nice together, there not actual EHX staff.

    maybe we need to see if we can get the title of this section changed, although I’m not sure to what… how about “This is not EHX technical support” ?? lol, The problem in this section is there’s too many people asking questions and not enough people willing to answer them, I mean any of us can find out what power supply is needed for a certain pedal, but it’s always the same few people answering, I can totally understand why EH man gets ticked off… for this forum to grow and flourish into a community we all need to be prepared to give a few answers when we can, but it seems to me that the people asking questions aren’t usually forum members as such, they are just people looking to contact ehx about a problem, which isn’t really what this forum is about, it’s about discussion.. and in this section we can discuss people’s technical problems and try to help them, members might know a solution or we might not… but people shouldn’t come here expecting one.

    …that’s the bottom line in my mind.

    #112245
    electro-melx
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    … also the sub-heading for this section is “Ask or answer questions about EHX gear” but how many people come in here to do the latter other than EH-Man, myself and a few others? How many of the people who post a question here, have looked at the other threads to see if there is any they can answer? A community cannot survive if there are only a handful of ‘givers’ and hundreds of ‘takers’ … eventually the givers will stop giving and the takers will have nothing to take.

    …. I’ll get off my soapbox now and return to the lounge!!!

    #112246
    The EH Man
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    … also the sub-heading for this section is “Ask or answer questions about EHX gear” but how many people come in here to do the latter other than EH-Man, myself and a few others? How many of the people who post a question here, have looked at the other threads to see if there is any they can answer? A community cannot survive if there are only a handful of ‘givers’ and hundreds of ‘takers’ … eventually the givers will stop giving and the takers will have nothing to take.

    …. I’ll get off my soapbox now and return to the lounge!!!

    Not to mention that most (if not all) of the power supply questions are 1st time posters who never contribute again.

    Jeezus, what a can of worms I’ve opened up on this thread! Glad to hear some of the other regulars feel the way I do.

    #112247
    electro-melx
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    … also the sub-heading for this section is “Ask or answer questions about EHX gear” but how many people come in here to do the latter other than EH-Man, myself and a few others? How many of the people who post a question here, have looked at the other threads to see if there is any they can answer? A community cannot survive if there are only a handful of ‘givers’ and hundreds of ‘takers’ … eventually the givers will stop giving and the takers will have nothing to take.

    …. I’ll get off my soapbox now and return to the lounge!!!

    Not to mention that most (if not all) of the power supply questions are 1st time posters who never contribute again.

    Jeezus, what a can of worms I’ve opened up on this thread! Glad to hear some of the other regulars feel the way I do.

    yeah, exactly… they aren’t interested in the forum as such they are just looking to contact EHX about something … which is fine and understandable BUT that isn’t what the forum is here for… clearly EHX don’t think so either otherwise they would have paid staff in here everyday answering the questions!

    I’m just gonna keep out of the ‘help’ section from now on, EHX staff can either come here and answer questions or they can go unanswered, I don’t come here and give my time for nothing to get a load of jip of disgruntled customers!! lol…

    #112248
    fantomenos
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    I appreciate everything you’ve said, and I think we both can see where the other one’s coming from. But when you say:

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    If we didn’t answer nobody would, I’m getting pretty sick of telling people to contact ehx myself, I come here for fun, to chat about effects and to enjoy it, not to keep telling people what power supply to use… and even worse people expecting me to know and tell them…

    it’s like me walking into a barbershop, seeing a guy with scissors in his hand, asking him for a haircut and having him snarl:

    “I’M SO SICK OF PEOPLE ASKING ME THAT! WHAT MAKES YOU THINK I GIVE HAIRCUTS?!”

    It makes no sense. I mean, if your handle is EH Man, there’s a reason people think you’re a man associated with EH. And if you’re administering a forum called Help/Technical Questions, people are going to assume you are there to help and answer technical questions. I know you’re sick of people making that assumption, but you must see why we make it.

    The fact that people (including the OP) keep making that mistake should not surprise anyone.

    #112251
    Cryabetes
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    …bit about the subheading

    …power supply…

    yeah, exactly… they aren’t interested in the forum as such they are just looking to contact EHX about something … which is fine and understandable BUT that isn’t what the forum is here for… clearly EHX don’t think so either otherwise they would have paid staff in here everyday answering the questions!

    I’m just gonna keep out of the ‘help’ section from now on, EHX staff can either come here and answer questions or they can go unanswered, I don’t come here and give my time for nothing to get a load of jip of disgruntled customers!! lol…

    I’m going to call EHX tonight when I get out of work and see if I can get someone who knows pedals AND is affiliated with them to start boarding as part of their customer service job- seems like a lot of the first time never seen again posters get all indignant and swear off buying EHX forever, but odds are they’ll still hang out at harmony central or wherever, where they’ll bash EHX and that’s really not fair to EHX’s reputation, to have that stuff out there.

    I mean, if they’re clearly ignoring the forum, that’s one thing. But if it’s a managarial oversight where no techs check it, letting them know how to fix it is going to be the easiest solution, right?

    #112253
    electro-melx
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    https://www.ehx.com/forums/viewthread/3921/

    that should sort out our problem anyway, the rest is down to EHX… lets hope they start doing something.

    #112255
    Cryabetes
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    man what is the point of being open until 6EST if everyone but the receptionist takes off at 5EST anyway?

    #112256
    electro-melx
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    man what is the point of being open until 6EST if everyone but the receptionist takes off at 5EST anyway?

    :D

    #112304
    fantomenos
    Member

    I was talking with my lovely wife about this issue, and she suggested calling the Forum Section “Users Helping Users” which I think would have the advantage of mot misleading people.

    #112308
    electro-melx
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    I was talking with my lovely wife about this issue, and she suggested calling the Forum Section “Users Helping Users” which I think would have the advantage of not misleading people.

    Sounds like a good idea, now we just have to get someone to do it, as you need to be a higher level of admin than us to do anything like that…. ‘super admin’ (EHX staff) ….. so you see the problem we have here!?!

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