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  • October 5, 2011 at 11:52 pm #81912
    Cellomangler
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    How about a guitar pedal for brass sounds. I recently acquired a Trombetta MiniBone pedal, and with the right settings, it can make a very passable dirty trumpet sound. It’s great, but there’s not much variety with that voice. I’d like to be able to achieve the cleaner Pat Metheny/GR-300 voice as well as trombone-ish and tuba-ish. The microsynth is too glitchy for me, and I don’t need the over-the-top synth sweep stuff. I’m just talking about a single pedal to get the spitty attack and envelope of a brass instrument. From hearing the Ravish Sitar, I would think this is now possible. And it needs to be MUCH cheaper than buying a Roland GR-55, VG-99, etc.

    October 10, 2011 at 5:31 am #116116
    Cellomangler
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    A lot of folks seem to have read my post but I wish I’d get a few opinions as to whether or not you think this pedal would be a worthy endeavor for Electro-Harmonix. Somebody might be listening.

    October 10, 2011 at 12:56 pm #116119
    Cryabetes
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    there probably are EHX pedals you can use for various horn sounds [not the least the HOG] but on a synth, 95% of making a ‘brass’ voice is just an ADSR envelope on the filter. EHX makes these already.

    October 10, 2011 at 11:02 pm #116124
    Cellomangler
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    I’ve got auto wah and filter pedals -there’s definitely more to the brass voice than that. And yes, you can get close by chaining several pedals together with the right settings, but isn’t that what we are trying to do with any new pedal design -make it simpler, specific and more compact ? Really it’s a matter of demand, and there just aren’t that many folks out there interested in a milder, jazzier voice. And I am targeting in particular the sound of the GR-300 as touted by Pat Metheny. Roland’s GR-55 is the cheapest way to get there that’s not using MIDI and other synth modules. The brass voice is distinctive as it begins with a slight sputter attack, has a rapid amplitude and rapid decay but can definitely sustain and has an envelope on the filter which, should be controllable, at least by attack characteristics of one’s picking. Check out this mini bone demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKoHsmkgAuA

    January 10, 2012 at 6:51 pm #116740
    forester
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    Hi there! I’m new to this Forum and found this posting by using “Pat Metheny” in the search. Reason being that I’m on the same predicament: looking for a less expensive option (than Roland GR-55) to get the sounds somehow similar to the one that PM uses with his synth guitar (is that Roland 300?). Particularly, two type of sounds: (1) the mix of sitar and horn that he uses in “Last Train Home” and the other kinda “Elephant” sound in the “Longest Summer” or “Dream of the Return”.

    Therefore, I started by looking at the Ravish Sitar in case I could achieve something like that (certainly would work on the sitar type of sound)…but was wondering if there are other better options for that (again, I don’t care about distortion or metal sounds, nor pure sitar sound per se…it’s just the synth sounds and strings that I would really like to have).
    Anyway, I’ll truly appreciate any advice you guys may provide!

    July 8, 2012 at 9:56 pm #117861
    Cellomangler
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    …looking for a less expensive option (than Roland GR-55) to get the sounds somehow similar to the one that PM uses with his synth guitar…

    I haven’t found any solutions yet. I need to experiment further with Trombetta’s Mini Bone v2 pedal which I own (see YouTube link in above post). Though it is a type of distortion pedal, I believe that if I split my initial guitar signal -one part cleaner and then the other part through the Tone Bone with lots of short tail reverb and then mix both back through a filter or autowah of sorts. If I just got paid to experiment with pedals!

    April 29, 2013 at 8:40 pm #118987
    Krade23
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    You are not alone in your search! I’m also searching for a compact fx pedal, just to get that Pat Metheny, King Crimson “Disciplin” kind of sound. It haunts me. It would be nice, if it could also reproduce kind of like “blade-runner Blues” by vangelis kind of sound.

    April 29, 2013 at 11:16 pm #119000
    Cellomangler
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    The new Roland GR-D demos show a sound pretty close to the Metheny synth horn thing. It’s $300 but more if you don’t already have a GK hex pickup. But no.. if I had money to blow I go for a Strymon Lex rotary pedal. For right now, the Trombetta Minibone will have to do. Rockett Pedals is now offering the Trombetta pedal design within their new WTF Fuzz. Maybe Bill Ruppert can be enticed into figuring out the easiest way to get this sound with EH pedal… easiest & cheapest, that is.

    April 30, 2013 at 12:14 am #119001
    Krade23
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    Then we’ll have to hope, that some amatuer effect pedal antusiast contacts, when he has cracked the code ;)

    On a completely different note; go for the Lex. Got one, and it got some sweet overdrive, along with the best ledlie sound on the market.
    Allthough the guitar wont sound like an organ, it comes pretty damn close. If you ad a long delay, with a long feedback, drive it in stereo and add some reverb, then it becomes one of the most spacious pedals i’ve ever heard.

    Take Care
    – Kristian

    August 23, 2014 at 7:32 pm #120181
    Peter Marvin
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    Hi there! Just like mentioned above, i found a band where the guitar player probably uses the Roland midi guitar synthesizer and i really love the sound. Just like the B9 organ pedal, i would like to have a pedal that reproduces the 80ies synth brass sound and thats exactly what this guy is doing with his midi pedal. You can check this band and understand the sound i’m talking about at this link
    https://mastermind.bandcamp.com/track/child-of-technology

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