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    devnulljp
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    Did any of the vintage Big Muffs not go above unity volume like the Superfuzz?
    I have a bunch of em, and they all have lots of volume on tap…except my triangle, which doesn’t get that loud.

    #101219
    Ned Flanders
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    Dunno, my IC and 3034 passes unity pretty well in normal mode, they both have tone bypass so that will ALWAYS make them pass unity by a mile too. Its the passive tonestack that eats up the volume, it has a tone recovery stage but I dont think its quite good enough TBH.

    #101221
    devnulljp
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    Thanks, that’s interesting. I have most of the others–v2 Ram head, v3 3003 red/black box, v4&5 IC muffs (1322, 3003, 3003-B), 3034, Green Army, even my Tone Wicker–and they all get pretty loud. Kicking out the tone stack on the TB ones does get a big volume jump too (and the wicker goes through the roof). But my triangle is not really loud. I wonder if it’s a bit goosed?
    I know at least some iterations of the Superfuzz and a few others don’t really go above unity gain by design.
    I was wondering if that’s true for the triangle?

    #101241
    Fender&EHX4ever
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    The deluxe bmp with the parallel/series switch also has unity volume issues.

    #101259
    Ned Flanders
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    The ramshead I made passes unity about the same as a NYC muff. Which isn’t much but its enough.

    Its just a combination of certain parts values throughout the entire circuit that dictate if it will pass unity or not I think.

    If it doesnt reach unity you could always tone bypass it permanently, that way it would look stock and sound like the tone is around half way but a bit clearer. After all, they are just pedals, not the holy grail…..If I was concerned with 100% vintage correctness my muffs would stil be non true bypass.lol

    But if I had the holy grail, I would probably true bypass that too!

    I have a 66 mustang, its not 100% vintage correct cause I’ve replaced the pickups and pots etc and wired it differently, these are just minor things to me. SO long as the overall looks still look vintage and the main components are intact i’m not too concerned.

    #101318
    Kitrae
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    Thanks, that’s interesting. I have most of the others–v2 Ram head, v3 3003 red/black box, v4&5 IC muffs (1322, 3003, 3003-B), 3034, Green Army, even my Tone Wicker–and they all get pretty loud. Kicking out the tone stack on the TB ones does get a big volume jump too (and the wicker goes through the roof). But my triangle is not really loud. I wonder if it’s a bit goosed?
    I know at least some iterations of the Superfuzz and a few others don’t really go above unity gain by design.
    I was wondering if that’s true for the triangle?

    I own two and have played several Triangles. They all pass unity volume, so you may have something a bit off with yours.

    #101348
    Stoner Wizard
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    The deluxe bmp with the parallel/series switch also has unity volume issues.

    As I commented on this thread: https://www.ehx.com/forums/viewthread/726/, I have an EH Deluxe Big Muff “Parallel/Series” (EH-3054 circuit board version) which has these volume issues.

    But in this particular case, I remember that this Big Muff (before the “mods”) was actually louder than unity gain (in fact, the rest of the band complained lots of times claiming that Big Muff was “too loud”). I know it because a former band mate owned it “all-original” and was “pure brute force”. Years after he sold it to a guy (which supposedly “modded” it – which led to disastrous results); later, that guy sold it again, and the I bought it back.

    Based on my experience and comparing it with the “Blend On/Off” version [EH-1330A board, if I’m not mistaken] (which is very loud if you wish), I think that restoring the Big Muff as close as original, the volume issues will be solved. If not, I’ll ask my tech to give it more gain is it needs and is technically possible.

    That’s my hope… as soon as I have fresh news, I’ll post it on the thread I mentioned above.

    Regards to everybody who love the Big Muff!

    Nacho

    #101465
    mlamons
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    i have a violet rams head and i had it all the way up and it blew up my peavy 15 watt. they have a lot of power

    #101922

    I have an IC Muff that has a very similar issue. When I switch the muff on, even with the muff volume dimed, there doesn’t seem to be much / any volume boost over when the effect is in the chain and switched off. The difference is, even when the muff is switched off, it is still boosting the signal substantially over what volume would be if the guitar were plugged directly into the amp. I’d like to know how to fix that issue (without true bypassing).

    #101923
    devnulljp
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    I have an IC Muff that has a very similar issue. When I switch the muff on, even with the muff volume dimed, there doesn’t seem to be much / any volume boost over when the effect is in the chain and switched off. The difference is, even when the muff is switched off, it is still boosting the signal substantially over what volume would be if the guitar were plugged directly into the amp. I’d like to know how to fix that issue (without true bypassing).

    I have three of those IC muffs — a 3003, 3003B, and 1322 — as well as a Little Big Muff w/ 1322 board, and they all go well above unity. They also don’t affectthe signal (much) when off. Yours definitely has a problem. Have you cleaned the slider switch?

    #101933
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    Quote:
    I have an IC Muff that has a very similar issue. When I switch the muff on, even with the muff volume dimed, there doesn’t seem to be much / any volume boost over when the effect is in the chain and switched off. The difference is, even when the muff is switched off, it is still boosting the signal substantially over what volume would be if the guitar were plugged directly into the amp. I’d like to know how to fix that issue (without true bypassing).

    I have three of those IC muffs — a 3003, 3003B, and 1322 — as well as a Little Big Muff w/ 1322 board, and they all go well above unity. They also don’t affectthe signal (much) when off. Yours definitely has a problem. Have you cleaned the slider switch?

    Hi devnulljp – I haven’t cleaned the slider. I can give that a try, although mine is a tone bypass slider.

    I think I did a bad job of explaining my issue. When I plug directly into an amp, volume is at lets just say, at 3. When I put the muff into the chain, even with it not switched on by the foot switch, volume jumps to 5 or 6. Then when I switch on the muff, volume tends to stick at around the same 5 or 6 when knobs are maxed. I think most people have the issue of volume being 3 straight to amp, and 3 with muff in chain on or off.

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