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  • October 14, 2009 at 9:05 pm #79120
    metamatic
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    Hi
    i’m having issues using a big muff pi USA into a tube head (marshall dsl 50) which belongs to a friend of mine. I use to set the preamp in order to have a clean sound just about to break into crunch, but with this setting when i turn the muff on, the sound gets really dark a muddy and won’t cut through.. If i play it with an ultra-clean amp (a Hot Rod Deluxe or a Laney VH100R clean channel, my main amps) i get the sound that i (and all of us) love… so is it reccomended to run the b.m. only into a really clean channel or is there something i’m missing? I love the marshall overally and i would like to be able to use the b.m. with it, so any advice from marshall and big muff owners would be really appreciated.
    thanks, regards

    October 14, 2009 at 9:30 pm #102237
    devnulljp
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    Tone Wicker!
    (or crank the tone on the muff?)
    Or am I totally misunderstanding the problem? have you tried backing off the sustain a bit too? I find sometimes you can get mush if you throw a muff in full-on balls-to-the-wall mode into a crunchy amp.
    Speakers make a difference too.

    October 14, 2009 at 9:49 pm #102239
    metamatic
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    I move sustain between 1 and 3 o’clock (maybe 4 :) ), tone even cranked and get that hughe loss of tone and dynamics as described before..
    what about speakers? I tried it on a 1960 with g12t75s

    October 15, 2009 at 7:32 am #102263
    electro-melx
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    I think most fuzz pedals sound better into a clean amp personally.

    it might be worth trying an EQ pedal to shape the muff’s tone a little to suit the amp more, they can be very dark and with the mid-scoop they can easily turn to mush.

    October 15, 2009 at 9:16 am #102265
    metamatic
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    Yes.. indeed when i try it on the VH100R with a slight overdriven setting (just a fat clean anyway) i get the same problem. On the full clean (which has a lot of headroom) it works very well. So as i was thinking of getting a single channel style head (plexy, jcm800 etc) will i be ever able to get a decent muff sound ot of it?

    October 15, 2009 at 10:21 am #102266
    hundirlaflota
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    Backing off just a little the tone and volume controls of the guitar can give you a lot more defined sound when using a muff plus a driven tube amp.
    Cheers!

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