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December 6, 2019 at 5:37 pm #86061mongobigmuffMember
Hello, first post here.
I have a question about the overdub function in the 95000 looper, is it possible to go from RECORD to OVERDUB on the same track without having the looper changing tracks?
If I’m playing a continuous drone I don’t want to have to stop the sound in order to select my original track to continue overdubbing.
I haven’t been able to do it. If this is not possible could it be considered for a future firmware update? I make ambient and soundtrack style stuff with loopers and putting layer over layer of sound is a very basic thing other loopers do.
I insist, maybe I’m overlooking the way o do it.
Thanks in advance!
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December 10, 2019 at 5:02 pm #125692Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorOn the 95000, there is no way to go from Record to Overdub and remain on Track 1. The 95000 always jumps from Track 1 to Track 2 after completing the New Loop record function, and immediately begins recording on Track 2.
Once the 95000 jumps to Track 2 you can overdub onto Track 2–or any other track including Track 1–as much as you like.
If you put Track 1 and Track 2’s volume faders to the same position and immediately begin overdubbing on Track 2, you get the same functionality as you would if you would if you just overdubbed onto Track 1.
We will consider adding an option that stops the 95000 from jumping to Track 2 on a future firmware update, but we cannot guarantee that we’ll add this option.
December 13, 2019 at 7:40 pm #125696mongobigmuffMemberThank you for your answer! Of course I’m aware I can perform an overdub the way you described, but it’s not really practical or intuitive for the kind of music I play on the looper.
I understand this “jump to the next track” can be useful for musicians that are making groove and EDM style loops, but in the case of more intrincate looping work (as in creating a soundscape, wall of sound of infinite overlays, experimental backwards stuff) jumping to the next track it’s not really useful at all.
I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who would like this feature to be optional, I’m a member of the “Looper’s Delight” mailing list (now facebook group) where a lot of musicians would gladly replace our old Electrix Repeaters with the 95000 if this thing could be optional.
Other feature I’d love to see in the 95000 is a “multiply loop” function. Let’s say you have a 4 bar loop, and you want to record an 8 or 16 bar solo or thing along with that original 4 bar loop. So with “multiply” you can change the “lenght” of the original loop in order to record the second one. Hope this makes sense. Another feature that 20-year old loopers like the Echoplex Digital Pro and the Electrix Repeater can perform easily. Now that we’re in the future, I don’t see why the 95000 couldn’t easily feature these functions!
Apart from that, I find my 95000 awesome, great sound quality (wich is much welcome compared to other products), great recording length,I LOVE that you have feedback control! this is something easily overlooked as a BASIC feature in any good looping device, I love the 6 tracks and the ergonomy. For me it misses veeeery few things to make it perfect.
Thank you! A+
December 13, 2019 at 8:16 pm #125697Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorQuote:Thank you for your answer! Of course I’m aware I can perform an overdub the way you described, but it’s not really practical or intuitive for the kind of music I play on the looper.I understand this “jump to the next track” can be useful for musicians that are making groove and EDM style loops, but in the case of more intrincate looping work (as in creating a soundscape, wall of sound of infinite overlays, experimental backwards stuff) jumping to the next track it’s not really useful at all.
I’m pretty sure I’m not the only one who would like this feature to be optional, I’m a member of the “Looper’s Delight” mailing list (now facebook group) where a lot of musicians would gladly replace our old Electrix Repeaters with the 95000 if this thing could be optional.
The “Jump to next track” option is something that we can make optional in a future update. At this time, I cannot say when that will happen.
Quote:Other feature I’d love to see in the 95000 is a “multiply loop” function. Let’s say you have a 4 bar loop, and you want to record an 8 or 16 bar solo or thing along with that original 4 bar loop. So with “multiply” you can change the “lenght” of the original loop in order to record the second one. Hope this makes sense. Another feature that 20-year old loopers like the Echoplex Digital Pro and the Electrix Repeater can perform easily. Now that we’re in the future, I don’t see why the 95000 couldn’t easily feature these functions!The multiply loop feature will not happen in the 95000. It plays one loop at a time, each loop has 6 tracks + 1 stereo track, all tracks are the same length. This will not change with the 95000.
Glad to hear you like the 95000 otherwise!
December 13, 2019 at 9:23 pm #125698mongobigmuffMemberI think I didn’t explain myself correctly concerning MULTIPLY. Let me try again
Let’s say you have a loop of a certain length that I’ll represent with
X
the 9500 is looping said X loop continuously on track 1, X after X after X and so on, the other tracks are of course of the same length. the duration of the loop is X
But on track 2 I want to record another thing that doubles X in length, so I MULTIPLY the length of my loop and NOW my loop is XX after XX after XX after XX, and this is the same for every subsequent track on the same loop. Therefore, the duration of my LOOP is XX instead of X and track 1 is two times X and my track 2 is a solo or a melody or something else. It multiplies the loop’s length and not different lengths for every track of the loop. This makes sense?
December 13, 2019 at 10:21 pm #125699Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorAah so the entire loop length is increased from say 2 bars to 8 bars with the 2 bar loop data on all tracks repeating four times?
December 13, 2019 at 10:33 pm #125700mongobigmuffMemberIf you have 2 bars and you multiply, your loop is now 4 bars. every track on the loops is now 4 bars, if you multiply again, your loop is now 6 bars.
Just out of curiosity, check out the user manuals for both the Electrix Repeater and Echoplex digital pro. This feature is INCREDIBLY useful for live looping duties, making the looper not just a glorified recorder but an INSTRUMENT. This is why those machines (Echoplex and Repeater) are so sought after and difficult to replace with hardware. Us, loopers of old chersih this multiply function a lot.
December 16, 2019 at 1:58 pm #125702Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorWe’ll put the multiply function on our potential list of future upgrades for the 95000 but I can’t guarantee we’ll be able to make it happen. Thanks for the suggestions!
December 22, 2019 at 9:42 am #125705mongobigmuffMemberThank you very much for your attention and your answers. The 95000 is a GREAT PRODUCT, and if you can implement the “no jump to the next track” and “multiply” functions it will be simply perfect. Thanks again!
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December 22, 2019 at 9:47 am #125706mongobigmuffMemberA+
December 23, 2019 at 2:47 pm #125708Flick (EHX Staff)ModeratorThank you! We’ll try our best on the 95000 updates.
June 19, 2022 at 5:53 am #191351tillousParticipantHello ! thank you mongobigmuff for this topic. i’m looking for the same function you describe by “multiply”. do you know that Ableton Live looper can do it too ? i purchase a hardware pedal with this function which as you meant, is very important for art of loop music 🙂
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