Home › Forums › Help/Technical Questions › 8-Step Program Midi Preset Issues

Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • Author
    Posts
  • September 3, 2014 at 10:36 pm #83574
    Tusks
    Member

    Hi Fellow Pedal Heads, hope you are well.

    I recently started exploring Midi rigs and given myself a headache trying to sync the 8-step with the presets. I’m using a Decibel 11 Pedal Palette as a controller, sending the midi signal to a Eventide Space and finally thru to the 8-step.

    I have read in the manual it is possible to use a midi controller to access the full 100 presets with midi, through cc118? I don’t really know what this means, from all my other reading I gathered cc messages were to change parameters, I don’t know how to use them to load presets.

    I can access the original 10 presets via midi with the Pedal Palette but only to it’s first 10 presets, this is far from Ideal as the Pedal Palette has 127 presets so it means 117 of them all load just preset 9 on the 8-step.

    I thought I could resolve this when I got the Eventide Space as it had more midi features including the ability to transmit CC messages, preset maps and program changes, but I’ve played around with all the options and can’t get the 8-step to respond to any of the midi messages except for the midi clock. I tried changing the original 10 presets on the 8-step using the Space as a controller (unplugged the Pedal Palette) and it didn’t work either.

    do I need another device to help resolve this? all I want to do is get the first 100 presets of the pedal palette to each have their own corresponding sequence on the 8-step, it sounds possible in the manuals. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks
    Tusks.

    September 5, 2014 at 10:10 pm #120203
    isyourmojofly
    Member

    Hi Tusks,

    I’ve been trying to use MIDI to control my HOG2 and run into some problems.

    Once you’ve saved a preset to the memory of your 8-step you can call it in one of two ways (with MIDI):

    – send a Program Change command with a value that corresponds to where you saved your patch (IE PC no. 48 will call preset 48)

    or

    – send a CC118 message with a value that corresponds to the preset (CC118 with a value of 48 will call preset 48)

    Whatever you’re using to control the pedal should have some facility to send a Program Change and I get the impression this is the best way of doing it; however, my GT-100 can only send a Program Change when I switch patches.

    It is also, apparently, impossible to save a preset as “Bypassed”, which means that if you want to use your pedal you have to have a preset loaded and ACTIVE all the time.

    Hope that helps.

    Ben

    September 9, 2014 at 11:56 pm #120210
    Tusks
    Member
    Quote:
    Hi Tusks,

    I’ve been trying to use MIDI to control my HOG2 and run into some problems.

    Once you’ve saved a preset to the memory of your 8-step you can call it in one of two ways (with MIDI):

    – send a Program Change command with a value that corresponds to where you saved your patch (IE PC no. 48 will call preset 48)

    or

    – send a CC118 message with a value that corresponds to the preset (CC118 with a value of 48 will call preset 48)

    Whatever you’re using to control the pedal should have some facility to send a Program Change and I get the impression this is the best way of doing it; however, my GT-100 can only send a Program Change when I switch patches.

    It is also, apparently, impossible to save a preset as “Bypassed”, which means that if you want to use your pedal you have to have a preset loaded and ACTIVE all the time.

    Hope that helps.

    Ben

    Thanks Ben, Bypassing the pedal is not an issue for me and my set up, the only thing that screws my head is how to send a cc118 message with a value of (x), does this have to be done via a computer or something?

    September 10, 2014 at 6:33 am #120212
    Alona123
    Participant

    Yes generally speaking enough current being supplied is the main issue. If you run a 300mA supply and the pedal needs 200mA it should be fine. The thing to remember is that if it’s a regulated DC power supply you will never have a problem.

    Unrelated but interesting to note is that I had a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube pedal that was needing about 760mA at 12Vac or thereabouts. I used a 12Vac 2amp supply and it made the internal power supply transformer run very hot. This is because the supply was an unregulated AC supply. Sure it would run 12Vac at 2amps, but at only 1/3 the current needed it wasn’t loaded down enough to settle at 12Vac. In short the transformer was seeing higher than 12Vac…………

    September 10, 2014 at 11:31 am #120213
    Tusks
    Member
    Quote:
    Yes generally speaking enough current being supplied is the main issue. If you run a 300mA supply and the pedal needs 200mA it should be fine. The thing to remember is that if it’s a regulated DC power supply you will never have a problem.

    Unrelated but interesting to note is that I had a Seymour Duncan Twin Tube pedal that was needing about 760mA at 12Vac or thereabouts. I used a 12Vac 2amp supply and it made the internal power supply transformer run very hot. This is because the supply was an unregulated AC supply. Sure it would run 12Vac at 2amps, but at only 1/3 the current needed it wasn’t loaded down enough to settle at 12Vac. In short the transformer was seeing higher than 12Vac…………

    …?

    I think I’m just going to get in touch with Midi Solutions.

  • Author
    Posts
Viewing 5 posts - 1 through 5 (of 5 total)
  • You must be logged in to reply to this topic.