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April 25, 2009 at 5:39 am #78133InvaderCCMember
I just bought this afternoon an original 1st generation Small stone Phase shifter off a guy on Craigslist…He had an add up last night Boss sd-1 MIJ and EHX Smallstone phase shifter 40 dollars..I was very surprised when handed me this vintage pedal i got home looked it up sure enough the 1st generation model..It was a good day…I also have a few questions maybe someone could answer…What is the value of this pedal..And also what power supply does it use ..Like an idiot after making sure the pedal worked at the guys house i walked out and left the power supply there…Can i use the same generic power supply for a big muff or does it need to be something special..I dont think there is a battery hook up on this pedal unless you take all the housing apart..Thanks for any help you may have…CC
April 26, 2009 at 12:36 am #96065Fender&EHX4everModeratorCongrats on your score! :thumb:
I used to have a first gen Small Stone, but the one I had made a popping noise when engaged, and I don’t know how to fix that 😥 I sold it so I could afford my Fender Mustang.
Here’s a soundclip of it: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7106245
May 3, 2009 at 8:44 pm #96301devnulljpParticipantWow, that’s a good score. I’ve come close a couple of times to CL scores like that but either been beaten to the punch or the seller does a quick google and finds out what they’ve got and the price goes up.
FWIW, I think you should be able to use a battery with it. All those old EHX pedals had to be taken apart to get to the battery clip (at least it meant there were no lost battery doors). (You could always go back to your seller and get the power supplyThe PP2 and onespot come with adapters for those pedals too).
Some good info here: http://www.pedalarea.com/small_stone.htmAnd sometimes the popping switch thing can be fixed by just raising the switch a touch, or sticking a pulldown resistor on the input.
May 4, 2009 at 7:45 pm #96325InvaderCCMemberI took the cover off and sure enough in have a battery keeper and wire ..I feel kinda dumb right now .To quote the scarecrow in the wizard of OZ…If i only had a Brain
June 10, 2009 at 9:13 am #97635Stoner WizardParticipantQuote:I just bought this afternoon an original 1st generation Small stone Phase shifter off a guy on Craigslist…He had an add up last night Boss sd-1 MIJ and EHX Smallstone phase shifter 40 dollars..I was very surprised when handed me this vintage pedal i got home looked it up sure enough the 1st generation model..It was a good day…I also have a few questions maybe someone could answer…What is the value of this pedal..And also what power supply does it use ..Like an idiot after making sure the pedal worked at the guys house i walked out and left the power supply there…Can i use the same generic power supply for a big muff or does it need to be something special..I dont think there is a battery hook up on this pedal unless you take all the housing apart..Thanks for any help you may have…CCHello:
I own a second generation EH Small Stone, and also I’ve won a first generation yesterday on eBay. I think the standard 9-volt 100 mA power 1/8″ jack supply will work properly. In fact, I think the current consumption is not too much. I run the 2nd version Small Stone with a power supply block (PCIOKS Baby – 280 mA) with four more pedals (Sparkle Drive, vintage EH Doctor Q, and two delay – hybrid analog/digital and a Boss DD-7) without any problem. So I think the 1st version is the same.
About popping noises do you refer to “pop” listened at the end, that cuts abruptly the phase cycle?. My MXR Phase 90 used to pop when set at long phase cycles. When I first bought the MXR Phase 90 six years ago it did the “pop”, but suddenly one day disappeared. Now, it only does the typical cycle “swoosh”, quite driven but it’s part of its raw sound (which I like too much). The MXR Phase 90 has an internal trim pot which can be adjusted to tailor the phase sweep to get “the phase” sound, but I don’t know if there exists the same for the Small Stone, I suppose (as they’re a 70’s design but with a different concept).
About the Small Stone I own, I only noticed the phase sweep when it’s set to fast cycle and with color switch engaged, but no popping noises at all. I’ve heard the 1st generation is the “finest” of the Small Stone versions, so I think it’ll sound a bit more tamed than later versions and reissues.
Regards and enjoy this little monster.
Nacho
January 26, 2010 at 8:18 am #106833MarieAnchMemberYou’re so lucky..I bought a second generation EH Small Stone at Ebay and i got so mad because
it’s not working well..Regards,
Marie Anch
Makeup for asiansJanuary 26, 2010 at 11:42 am #106835The EH ManModeratorQuote:You’re so lucky..I bought a second generation EH Small Stone at Ebay and i got so mad because
it’s not working well..Regards,
Marie Anch
Makeup for asiansWhat’s the problem with it?
January 26, 2010 at 5:33 pm #106204BrianzeroParticipantQuote:Congrats on your score! :thumb:I used to have a first gen Small Stone, but the one I had made a popping noise when engaged, and I don’t know how to fix that 😥 I sold it so I could afford my Fender Mustang.
Here’s a soundclip of it: http://soundclick.com/share?songid=7106245
That sounds so very good!!!
July 17, 2010 at 7:06 am #110306squeakyhingeMemberI too, was wondering about the power supply, that’s how I ended up here. I had been looking for some of my old stuff I haven’t used in years, found an old box with a smallstone phase shifter, soul preacher (compressor/sustainer) and a linear power booster, all Electro Harmonix. Man am I glad the nine volt batterries don’t corrode like D cells do. Never been much of a pedal guy other than a wah wah, but I remember buying just to try them in ’77. Guess I’ll polish them up and put them in a display case, lol.
July 17, 2010 at 4:42 pm #110315Mr.GrimMemberi think great condition ones that work fine can go for as much as $300.
i also got a great score on my V1 Small Stone, i got it for $20! on eBay, because they sed it wasn’t working correctly (sum times works sometime don’t), but i knew whatever the issue i could fix it, and it turned out to just be a bad footswitch! i happen to have an extra original Carling type replacement laying around (being that i build my own and repair others) and it worked great!
i don’t have a popping issue when turned on/off much, maybe just the first time you use it that session (i just turn it on and of one or two ties before i actualy use it) plus you could add a capacitor to eliminate that.
the only issue i have with it really is the major volume drop, i fix that without modding by putting it into a true bypass loop switch with a booster like the LPB-1, or you could use a channel switcher like the switch blade, and have one channel bypass the effect and the other run into a booster then the Small Stone, then combine the signals back together at the end.
May 8, 2011 at 9:59 pm #115165FatsosGuitarsMemberHi guys I too just bought an older small stone, got home and it doesn’t work, I bypassed the footswitch and got sound but not effected sound what could the problem be here what can I test and how to find the problem with it, all connections are good
May 8, 2011 at 10:51 pm #115166The EH ManModeratorQuote:Hi guys I too just bought an older small stone, got home and it doesn’t work, I bypassed the footswitch and got sound but not effected sound what could the problem be here what can I test and how to find the problem with it, all connections are goodIt could be an IC, a power supply problem, or a bad footswitch. You need to have a tech look at it.
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