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June 18, 2024 at 5:47 pm #210376DimiPanaParticipant
Hello, this is about a 15 W Howitzer Power Amp I recently purchased.
It was advertised as “mint” on Reverb but the pictures did not show if the power supply was included. I contacted the seller and he told me that the P/S will be included and stressed that was a “new item” at a great price so I purchased it. It cost me $111 (plus my local tax) which was actually one of the lowest prices available plus s&h was free. When the item came, it became obvious that “mint” can mean a lot of things, but the most important issue I have with it is that the white indicator lines on the pot buttons were washed off/faded out, obviously from what appeared to be heavy prior use. There were also a couple of oily(?) fingerprints on the pedal itself and the box it came in was the original but clearly opened, used and abused, the edges were worn and tatty, one med-sized cut/hole on the box top, the inside paperwork unpacked and refolded, the p/s cables held together with old, frayed wire twists, you get the picture. Now the important thing for me is that it did not have any dents, scratches or fall markings on the pedal itself and electronically appears to be working as expected. However, the GAIN button is only usable up to 50-60%. More than that it introduces a lot of hiss/noise. I’m not sure if this is “normal” or an indication that the pedal has been …electronically, abused? There are also indications that the pedal has been opened (and reclosed) as the in/out jacks are not positioned in their original place and there are obvious markings around the washers.
My question is to EHX (if they read this note) and all those familiar with EHX products: How long should it really take of continuous use for the white indicator lines on the pot buttons to washed off and become faded-out? Everything else points to the seller misrepresenting the condition of the pedals but when I confronted him about it he told me (and I quote): “it is super common that [the fading] to all of the EHX white level lines are not consistent”. Obviously I agree. So before I file a complain for this seller on Reverb I’d like to ask those of you who have experience with EHX, do you agree with that. In my opinion, for the pot lines to start fading, one would have to use the pedal heavily and for a long time.
Finally, I immediately registered the pedal but will EHX honor the warranty should I need service when it’s obvious the pedal condition was misrepresented as “new” when it wasn’t.
Thanks for your feedback!
June 18, 2024 at 6:16 pm #210377The EH ManModeratorI’ve never seen the indicator lines worn off a knob. I’d send it back for a full refund. Better to spend a bit more and know what you’re getting.
June 18, 2024 at 6:27 pm #210378DimiPanaParticipantThat’s exactly what I thought when I first saw it, but wanted the opinion of the community and some more experienced than me people. Thank you so very much!
June 18, 2024 at 6:35 pm #210379DimiPanaParticipantBtw, here’s some pictures:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/euiiJQHk9522TbNG7
Does this look “mint” and a “new unit” to you? Also what can you tell me from the serial numer (202110098283). This is definitely NOT a “new unit”.
Also, do you think EHX will honor the warranty if the product was not purchased new?!
Thanks!
June 18, 2024 at 7:49 pm #210382Valter AguiarParticipantAre those photos from the actual unit you’re reporting about? The indicators on the knobs seem pretty normal to me, they aren’t perfect but I’ve had newly bought ehx pedals with those little inconsistencies in the finish/knob indicators, seems pretty normal to me. The marks on the side are clearly from mechanic abrasion, tightening that input because it got loose or something like that. Might happen sooner than expected also, doesn’t necessarily mean the pedal was ‘abused’. It was well used but certainly doesn’t look like it was kicked around.
I’d say the gain thing is also the way it’s supposed to be. Do you have something to compare it to? Try searching on youtube for some video review and see if they explore the setting enough for you to compare to your experience and see if the pedal is actually defective or if that’s normal operation.
June 18, 2024 at 8:00 pm #210383EHX STAFFKeymasterIt looks shop worn and they may not be an EHX dealer.
I would send it back and ask for a different pedal or a refund.
If they are not a real EHX dealer there may be no warranty.
Please reach out to service and ask.
Have the dealers name and address so they can check.
Write:Personaly I would send it back.
June 18, 2024 at 8:02 pm #210384DimiPanaParticipantYes this is the actual unit I purchased.
It’s hard to tell from the photos, in my opinion the pedal, being manufactured back in 2021 was a used item they just decided to sell it as “mint” and they even advertised it as a “new unit”, which is definitely not.
I have nothing to compare this unit to, but with the gain turned up more than 50-60% it becomes unusable. I’m hoping more people will chime in and let me know of their experience.
My main concern right now is if EHX will honor the warranty IF I need to send the pedal in for inspections/repair, given that it is clearly a second hand unit.
Thanks for your feedback!
June 19, 2024 at 9:24 am #210385Valter AguiarParticipantThere, compare it yourself, video showing different gain settings on your pedal.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiRJenClw8o
You can forget about warranty on a second hand product.
- This reply was modified 6 months ago by Valter Aguiar.
June 19, 2024 at 11:29 am #210387DimiPanaParticipantMany thanks to all who have responded so far!
Indeed the pedal looks worn from repeated use, the seller claims they are an EHX dealer but I checked online and they don’t come up under “Dealer Locator” on the website, and although they claim the warranty is guaranteed I doubt this is true for a used product.
I did send a message to EHX customer support asking if this is an authorized dealer, the full address is:
Eclectic Sounds
8805 N Delaware Ave
Portland, OR 97217-6907Funny thing is, if you look up this address on Google (and look the actual picture) it is not a store it’s just a plain home in a residential area. So, for all I know, I might be dealing with someone selling used equipment from his mama’s basement.
As far as the YouTube video with the different settings, thanks for finding this, it shows exactly what I said: With the gain knob past halfway the unit on YT starts distorting gracefully with a pleasant sound all the way to 100%.
Mine starts distorting too much after 60% and is basically unusable if you turn it all the way up.
June 19, 2024 at 11:36 am #210388DimiPanaParticipanthttps://photos.app.goo.gl/euiiJQHk9522TbNG7
I have added the picture of the sellers address from Google maps, he’s definitely not running a store, check it out.
June 20, 2024 at 7:36 pm #210395EHX STAFFKeymasterYou need a real store (or brick and mortar as they call it) to be am EHX dealer…
A house wont do it.June 20, 2024 at 9:00 pm #210396DimiPanaParticipantI agree, hopefully reverb will be receptive and supportive when I tell them all this and I’ll get my money back. I’ll keep you posted even though I understand there is not much EHX can do in a situation like this.
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