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    feefenstein
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    hi guys,
    i’m looking at youtube stuff on the pog2 and am really interested in getting one to upgrade from my boss ps5. lovin some of the sounds from it.
    i’m not quite sure of the wording for what i’m looking for in my octaver but i’m wondering if it tracks ‘continually’. i find the boss only really works well on clear semitone intervals tuned to A440.
    however, i use other tuning references for different songs and also i want something that tracks bends and playing with a slide smoothly.
    also i’m wondering how it works on baritone /7string stuff. can it still accurately track 2 octaves under a low B?
    any help or comments much appreciated

    #117004
    feefenstein
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    Anyone???!!

    #117007
    Cryabetes
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    the general difference between a pitch shifter (moves in semitone or whole tone steps) and a digital octave pedal is an octave doubles or halves the frequency without regard to frequencies coming in. take a look at this wikipedia link

    Now, a guitar’s low E is 82.41hz for the fundamental. Each octave down divides that in two – so , -1 octave is 41.25hz, -2 octaves is 20.77hz. The lower limit of human hearing in otherwise silent/anechoic chamber situations is 14hz; the generally accepted ‘lowest frequency you can hear’ is 20hz (also generally around the lowest frequencies most amplifiers will put out).

    Now, with digital effects, the low frequencies are left wholly intact – I mean, the Digital/Analog converters aren’t going to screw with your lows (your highs maybe but that’s a whole different matter that you can read about at this link) – but the amplifier or preamp sections might trim it, and it’s doubtful the speakers will reproduce it.

    Now let’s look at your droptune B -15vb scenario. B1 is 61.74hz so B0 would be 30.87hz and B-1 would be 15.44hz. That’s no longer audible. That’s no longer sonic frequencies – that is kinetic frequencies. That is rumble. infrasound. your speakers will not be able to accurately reproduce it. True, you’ll get the harmonics showing through, but the fundamental note will not be there.

    Also the PS-5 was a terrible pitch shifter – it and the Hr-2 (another turd) replaced in the boss catalog one of the best pedals ever made, the PS-3. The Micropog or Pog2 will get you what you need.

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    feefenstein
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    Dude! Thanks so much. This is exactly the info I was looking for. I was already aware of a lot of the frequency stuff but wasn’t sure if the pog used the frequency of the input or used a reference and changed it in cents.
    That’s a really helpful answer and I’d like to thank you very much and agree….. The ps5 is pretty lame compared to what you’ve described!

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